Paul's new Wax has been introduced to the UK

Spilchy im curious about some of your comments. You sayyou laugh... do you laugh at someone who buts a mercedes? Its just a car afer all.. do you buy a wax that costs more then 99cnts at the dollar store?do you live in a house with a big tv? why.. its just a tv...

You can say anything is a waste of money, you really can. you spend money on any wax and some will laugh at you...



Im curious about your comments, and what fuels it....
 
calgarydetail said:
Spilchy im curious about some of your comments. You sayyou laugh... do you laugh at someone who buts a mercedes?
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I think there is a much bigger difference (value, performance) between a Kia and a Mercedes than Souveran and ANY $20,000 wax.



Besides, surface prep is 90% of the look anyway.
 
Scottwax said:
I think there is a much bigger difference (value, performance) between a Kia and a Mercedes than Souveran and ANY $20,000 wax.



Besides, surface prep is 90% of the look anyway.
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thats YOUR personal opion.. i know people who dont see the diffrence in those car.. to them a car is a car..



i also know people who would spend 20k on a wax, because to them its worth it... YOU have made the decsion (throgh things you value) to think a merc a s better then a kia
 
I beg to differ. The majority of the look is dependent on the paint condition. After the paint, then comes the prep. Then what's left after the prep stage is dependent on the lsp of your choice. Without optimal paint condition, no prep or lsp will produce a good finish (short of a repaint). Its more of a 75% paint condition, 15% prep, and 10% finish with one or a variety of lsp products as I see it.
 
calgarydetail said:
thats YOUR personal opion.. i know people who dont see the diffrence in those car.. to them a car is a car..



i also know people who would spend 20k on a wax, because to them its worth it... YOU have made the decsion (throgh things you value) to think a merc a s better then a kia
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The difference is you can prove a Mercedes is better than kia in build, performance and quality of materials. You can't prove a $20,000 wax is going to give you a better finish than a $50 wax. The best part is a $20,000 carnauba washes off is a couple weeks the same way a $20 carnauba does. For $20K I better get a naked french maid to wax my car to such a shine I get arrested for causing people to go blind. Just sayin.
 
never gone said:
The difference is you can prove a Mercedes is better than kia in build, performance and quality of materials. You can't prove a $20,000 wax is going to give you a better finish than a $50 wax. The best part is a $20,000 carnauba washes off is a couple weeks the same way a $20 carnauba does. For $20K I better get a naked french maid to wax my car to such a shine I get arrested for causing people to go blind. Just sayin.
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well your definition of what is better is speed, or materials... but my deffintion of waht is better may be price...



as for the testing waxes, ther are ways such as glosmetters and durabilty tests.



the point of all this is that its subjective, what some some see is better may not be better to another.. just becasue you think its stupid or a bad purchase does not make it so... to me it may be the best thing i ever buy....
 
Guys, I have a Mazda mx5 2007. The paint is in excellent condition. The car has been detailed by me since day 1 and has no swirls, marring etc. It has seen Meguiars and Mothers products. It gets looks! Period.

A $20,000 wax is NOT going to make it look better. IF, it actually does make it look better, it will most likely have to be measured with scientific instruments. My point is that the human eye will not be able to tell. Improvement would imho be measured at less than .05%.

Conclusion, Paul will make a lot of money from people who equate more $$$ as being a much better product. Damn that makes me mad.
 
I think the wax is only meant to stir up publicity for P.D. and Swissvax. Swissvax pays Paul for his "celebrity" status while they in turn make money by luring in more potential customers to their "lesser" products. I really doubt there's even a market for a $20k wax, especially one without a lifetime refill. Swissvax could easily make more money by selling a larger quantity of $200 waxes than a small quantity of a ridiculously priced wax. IMO this is just clever marketing, and in the end it's a win-win for P.D. and Swissvax. The only person getting shafted is the guy that actually spent $20,000 on wax. But hey, if it makes him happy and it makes him feel like he's above everyone else, then maybe that's $20,000 well spent for him. You can't tell a man how to spend his own money, but you can laugh at him. :D



Personally, if I had that kind of money to waste and I was gullible enough, I'd spend the extra $10K for Solaris. It comes in a more attractive container, is "solar-activated", and is refillable for life. I just haven't bought it yet because I'm waiting for the lunar-activated version, so when the world ends and there's no sunlight, I can still apply my special-to-me wax.
 
calgarydetail said:
thats YOUR personal opion.. i know people who dont see the diffrence in those car.. to them a car is a car..
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The difference is measurable.



Why are you so hot about defending a $20,000 wax? Paul has every right to sell it and people have every right to spend that kind of money but there is no way that the wax is actually worth $20,000 in a real, demonstable way. Put it side by side on equally prepped vehicles with Souveran and there will not be $19,930 in visual or durability difference.
 
Glossometers/Durability tests cost of HECK of alot. They require special lab situations & correct conditions, all which would be far more costly than even these high end waxes. It's all preference.
 
If Paul and Swissvax sell zero cans of this, they already have succeded and profited. Pauls phone is ringing off of the hook and Swissvax sales are builing up for he spring season to record heights.



The publicity and marketing we all have generated from these threads alone is worth the profit on 100 cans of this wax if ever sold.



Think about it. What does it cost you to mail out 10000 flyers to uninterested people? They have teamed up and spread the word to 10000 interested people in 1 day! Astonishing isn't it?



Major kudos also goes to Swissvax, who out of nowhere came in and kicked Zymol from the top spot in luxury waxes. Check all of the boards, people are pissed with Zymol, they relaxed and Swissvax came in for the kill.
 
Paul Dalton aka Miracle said:
There will be an official Press Release very soon with all relevant details.



The Crystal version is mine, its only £10k coz I don't really want to sell it, but if someone parts with 10k for one, I will personally deliver it to them were ever they are in the world, along with detailing there car for them and showing them how to apply the wax and how to maintain there vehicle correctly.



Kind Regards

Paul.
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FYI.....................
 
jshillin said:
I just read that on DB as well. I guarantee he will sell a lot of it like that, even at that price.
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I agree



My take is this.. he is selling a "feeling"



I am pro PD and in no way are my comments meant to bash him ...



When people contract PD for a 10k detail or buy his pots of wax they are buying a "feeling".. they know that "wealthy /famous" people have received the same process and they get that "feeling" same thing as the wax..



In all honesty average people search for this feeling in a dfifferent way they (we) search for a comparable service/product at a far lesser cost and we then get a "feeling".. Although, the source and nature of the feeling is quite different it is a "feeling" no less...



Mehh, I dont think I did a good job of stating that - no coffee in me yet
 
Originally Posted by Paul Dalton aka Miracle;27287

There will be an official Press Release very soon with all relevant details.



The Crystal version is mine, its only £10k coz I don't really want to sell it, but if someone parts with 10k for one, I will personally deliver it to them were ever they are in the world, along with detailing there car for them and showing them how to apply the wax and how to maintain there vehicle correctly.



Kind Regards

Paul.
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BS, BS, BS, BS, BS, BS, and more BS.



If you support this s**t you should be medicated. Give me a break!!!!! "its only £10k coz".....blah blah blah BS!!!!!!
 
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