PANEL WIPES
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Accumulator
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I did the "only spraywax" with on my wife's A8 for its last few years, and I'm currently using GG Ceramic 3-in-1 spray on the Sonic.
That approach is OK, and I don't expect durability from it, but it does *NOT* offer the protection of my beloved FK1000P/BWM1 (or whatever it's now called) which has never allowed any etching of the clear even when bugs/birdbombs were left on for months. Yeah, the sprays deliver good looks, easy enough cleanup if I keep applying at every wash, and yeah they're convenient...but inferior IME in the functional sense with regard to protection from etching and that "easy enough" cleanup is starting to get old compared to how the FK is.
I do appreciate the UV protection of OCW, and I've been using it on the lenses of all my vehicles for years now. Hey, I might as well use it, my gallon will last forever now that the A8 is gone.
I do find it interesting that the coatings (which I haven't used since the v1.0 OptiCoat) apparently aren't offering stellar protection.
Do any of the coatings offer the kind of years-long durability that the OptiCoat v1.0 did? I might pay a local pro to coat some of my wheels if I knew the stuff would last for a few years, but otherwise...
That approach is OK, and I don't expect durability from it, but it does *NOT* offer the protection of my beloved FK1000P/BWM1 (or whatever it's now called) which has never allowed any etching of the clear even when bugs/birdbombs were left on for months. Yeah, the sprays deliver good looks, easy enough cleanup if I keep applying at every wash, and yeah they're convenient...but inferior IME in the functional sense with regard to protection from etching and that "easy enough" cleanup is starting to get old compared to how the FK is.
I do appreciate the UV protection of OCW, and I've been using it on the lenses of all my vehicles for years now. Hey, I might as well use it, my gallon will last forever now that the A8 is gone.
I do find it interesting that the coatings (which I haven't used since the v1.0 OptiCoat) apparently aren't offering stellar protection.
Do any of the coatings offer the kind of years-long durability that the OptiCoat v1.0 did? I might pay a local pro to coat some of my wheels if I knew the stuff would last for a few years, but otherwise...
Dan
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Better, it depends. If you maintain the Collinite regularly. maybe. Once a month would be ideal. That's the challenge though and where good quality spray waxes and sealants come in. I posted this in another thread, when I was used car shopping, I saw a few cars that had ceramic coatings come up in their carfax. I couldn't tell, maybe if I washed them I might notice water beading if the coating was still there?
A coating isn't even a micron thick, its not going to make your paint impenetrable. Bird poop can etch right down to primer, do you really think something in a $100 bottle is tougher than what they paint a car with?
Honestly, I don't have all the answers, but one thing I know for sure, frequent washing and putting a sacrifical coating on top of the paint regularly keeps it pristine.
In the context of someone that doesn't maintain their car, the coating may be a good option.
Accumulator
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"Better than a ceramic coating" to me means "doesn't look like a coating". Same criticism I had with Zaino and KSG. It's a specific look that some must love, and OK, to each their own and I'm glad the users like it.
Bull6791- 845 is good enough for me to keep on the shelf, but overall I prefer their 476S, which lasts longer and, on most paints looks better *to me*. The 845 is a lo0t easier though, not that the 476S is tough. Just throwing it out there...
Bull6791- 845 is good enough for me to keep on the shelf, but overall I prefer their 476S, which lasts longer and, on most paints looks better *to me*. The 845 is a lo0t easier though, not that the 476S is tough. Just throwing it out there...
Dan
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Accumulator, you bring up a great point, traditional waxes absolutely look better on certain finishes, especially on less than perfect paint!
An AIO and 845 do different things. An AIO is a time-saving one step that corrects and protects. 845 is a pure wax/sealant that does not correct. If your finish needs correction, and you have an LSP in mind, I would not use an AIO and top it with 845 PERSONALLY. I would use an appropriate polish and then use 845. Bull, I feel like we've been through this already buddy 