Pads for M105/M205?

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LoiG37

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Hi,



What pads do you guys recommend or worked best for you that you use with

M105 and M205 via FLEX 3401? besides CCS Orange and White.



Thanks in advance!



Loi
 
I mostly use the yellow Meguiars polishing pad with #105 and either the same pad (okay, not the EXACT same pad) or their new black finishing pad with #205.
 
both brands and cut, I will be trying the M105/M205 soon and want to see what people are using with it and how.
 
I really agree with Scott.



The yellow foam pads (W8207 and W8006) will really remove defects when combined with M105. The new black finishing (W9207) is much firmer than the older finishing pad (W9006), but the finish is about the same.



CCS pads are just okay. While I like some of the foams that LC offers, I'll take flat pads any day.
 
LoiG37 said:
both brands and cut, I will be trying the M105/M205 soon and want to see what people are using with it and how.
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I would use the pads they were designed to work with. W7207, W8207, W9207. I don't use the W7207 much, usually the W8207 gets the job done with M105. I follow that up with M205 on the W9207 finishing pad.



LC pads work well too, but Jason Rose mentioned that M205 works best with the W9207 pad.
 
I too use the Meguiar's yellow pad 95% of the time with M105, and usually with M205 as well.



I am going to be polishing my own car today with M205 / black Meg's pad / Makita. I'll try and snag some pics.
 
LC white ccs pad (5.5" on PC) does wonders for me on anything but very hard paints... I can imagine a little bigger pad will work great on the Flex... I also think Meg's old pads work great, 8006 and 9006, with M105 but I use them mostly on rotary..
 
I'm glad I have a couple of 8006 pads lying around. I know they're smaller, but what do you all think about using the old black 3M UK Polishing pads with M205? If no one's tried it, I'll let you all know how it works out once the weather gives me a good window of opportunity.
 
Can someone tell me whats M105 and M205 equivalent to in Menzerna terms?



M105 = Menzerna SIP???

M205 = Menzerna PO106FF???



thanks
 
LoiG37 said:
Can someone tell me whats M105 and M205 equivalent to in Menzerna terms?



M105 = Menzerna SIP???

M205 = Menzerna PO106FF???



thanks
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From what I've been learning, it's not that easy to put those Meg's products up to a comparable compound/polish from another manufacturer. They are quite versatile in their applications and results...
 
LoiG37 said:
Can someone tell me whats M105 and M205 equivalent to in Menzerna terms?



M105 = Menzerna SIP???

M205 = Menzerna PO106FF???
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IMO and experience 105/205 really don't compare to any singular Menz products. With an aggressive pad, some pressure and a long work time 105 attacks defects as effectively as Power Gloss Compound. With a less aggressive pad it might remove defects more like SIP or IP. However, with a white LC pad I think it cuts as effectively as IP and finishes as well as 106FF. Plus since 105/205 are micro-abrasives rather than Menz' diminishing abrasives your correction is affected by how long you work it.



205 corrects pretty effectively with an aggressive pad as well. Yet, as DaveKG on Detailing World Forum concluded after a comparison test, it finishes as well as PO85.



I have yet to achieve the stellar results many are touting with 105/205 due to limited use on my own vehicles. There's definitely a learning curve after using diminishing abrasives for a while. The combo of hard/soft clear coat, pad selection, working time, DA or rotary, etc give a wide range of options making 105/205 extremely versatile while at the same time requiring quite a bit of trial and error. Your mileage may vary.



TL
 
michakaveli said:
From what I've been learning, it's not that easy to put those Meg's products up to a comparable compound/polish from another manufacturer. They are quite versatile in their applications and results...
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Hey Mike,



How you think I'll do on the Benz's paint now that I'll equipped with a Flex and M105?:)
 
TLMitchell said:
IMO and experience 105/205 really don't compare to any singular Menz products. With an aggressive pad, some pressure and a long work time 105 attacks defects as effectively as Power Gloss Compound. With a less aggressive pad it might remove defects more like SIP or IP. However, with a white LC pad I think it cuts as effectively as IP and finishes as well as 106FF. Plus since 105/205 are micro-abrasives rather than Menz' diminishing abrasives your correction is affected by how long you work it.



205 corrects pretty effectively with an aggressive pad as well. Yet, as DaveKG on Detailing World Forum concluded after a comparison test, it finishes as well as PO85.



I have yet to achieve the stellar results many are touting with 105/205 due to limited use on my own vehicles. There's definitely a learning curve after using diminishing abrasives for a while. The combo of hard/soft clear coat, pad selection, working time, DA or rotary, etc give a wide range of options making 105/205 extremely versatile while at the same time requiring quite a bit of trial and error. Your mileage may vary.



TL
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Very nice info, thanks! so Meg's can has a very wide range in cutting and finishing power possibilities it seems.
 
LoiG37 said:
Hey Mike,



How you think I'll do on the Benz's paint now that I'll equipped with a Flex and M105?:)
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I think you're off to a good start, but most likely will need a finishing polish. Last time I attacked my '97 E was 3 years ago or so with a PC, white and orange LC flat pads and the 3 Griot's Garage compound/polishes. I was able to remove the swirls, but I have RIDS that need attention.



But from other reviews I've read, the w210 may have fairly hard paint. But you won't really know until you try to test area. Got that from the Meguiar's Class 101. Test 1st with least aggressive method and move up from there is need be.



Also depends on the color, the darker the color the more refinement yo may need based on your desired results.
 
TL[/quote] There's definitely a learning curve after using diminishing abrasives for a while. The combo of hard/soft clear coat, pad selection, working time, DA or rotary, etc give a wide range of options making 105/205 extremely versatile while at the same time requiring quite a bit of trial and error. Your mileage may vary.



TL[/QUOTE]



Bingo.
 
HappyWax said:
TL
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There's definitely a learning curve after using diminishing abrasives for a while. The combo of hard/soft clear coat, pad selection, working time, DA or rotary, etc give a wide range of options making 105/205 extremely versatile while at the same time requiring quite a bit of trial and error. Your mileage may vary.



TL[/QUOTE]



Bingo.[/QUOTE]



Mike Phillips makes it look easy with a DA. I have not used my 105/205 yet but I liked the fact it seems to have a shorter more predictable work time than what I have used before.
 
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