P21S wax

rmccall6

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Here I am a fairly old member of this forum (not BradB gezer old though;) and I hadn't even tried some of the better stuff out there. I was ready to take the plunge and purchase Souveran (talk about the better stuff out there) but talked to DavidB before I did so. I asked him about topiing BF with a wax, and he siad he does all the time with Souveran, and loves it. He then whent on to say that if I want to save a considerable amount of money, go check out the S100 wax. This is the same wax as the P21S Concours wax, just at a reduced price of $15. Im not the one to sacrifice quality for a few bills saved but David said that P21S was deveoped by the same chemist as Souveran, and while maybee not exactly the same, its a close second, or "90% of Souveran." And plus at 15 bucks, how could I loose. To sum up, it was a very smart purchase. This stuff is *insert superlative here*. My test car was my bro's 330ci in topaz blue. It recently received a full BF detail, and a few months later, in typical BF fashion, it still looked good but felt squeaky clean. After the wash I grabbed the beatifull plastic jar and whent to town. This stuff really does "wipe on like butter", and after letting it frost for about 20-30 sec, it wipes off even easier. Its main selling point is that it wont stain trim, and there is no false advertizing going on here. I finished in about 15 min. The car looked stunning... it added even more to the BF shine (which is fabulous). It was very refined looking, smooth and wet, and being a carnauba, it brought out that blue like it never had before. After its first wash, with AutoInt's C, mixed down slightly, it kept on stunning me. It lost some slikness, as is expected with a carnauba, but its shine was about 95%. To sum up, go buy this wax if your in need of one, even if you dont think you do. If wax is the icing on the cake, consider this stuff that rich, cream cheese icing that'slathered over a warm Cinnabun....mmmmmmm Cinnabun. Please excuse that Homer Simpson moment. -Bradford H
 
Great review. Only needs some pictures :) j/k



The next time I pass by that Harley Davidson store on Rt 9 on my way to my godmother's house, I'll check for this S100 car care product and maybe pick up the paint cleaner too!



Jason
 
Thanks Bradford, this is great to hear. I still not at the point where I'm ready to use my S100 yet, but I can't wait. :bounce



Jason, don't ask for a "car wax" :D This stuff only uses the word "car" once on the instruction booklet! This line is totally sold as and marketed for motorcycles, but we know better now! Muhahahahaha!



I don't know what the "real" P21S says, but the very attractive (and similar) S100 jar says, "Give your bike the ultimate showbike shine in minutes!"
 
Trust me, the P21S and S100 are exactly the same. As are the paint cleaners. Pictures...what ever happened to imagination?;)
 
this was getting my goat so I e mailed somone from the company ..........................my answer is that the price reduction in S100 was because there was less product(how much comes in the S100) but you can use it and have the same results!!!! my question P21S is 6.2 ozs how much comes in the S100 can?
 
6.2 oz. They are exactly the same. I wouldn't send them an angry e-mail though because then they might jack up the price of the S100.
 
I have the P21S kit (concourse wax, paint cleaner, auto shampoo, wheel cleaner, glass wipes, sponge, and terry-covered applicator).



I've used it on our Infiniti I30 (white and gold) and step-dad's Volvo S80 (moondust? - silverish with hints of pewter and gold - cool color btw).



He was extremely impressed as was I. I'm in right now taking a break after washing and waxing the I30. I'll post some pics (still gotta do the windows and tires).



BTW, the P21S wheel cleaner is worth its weight in gold. Great stuff.



I bought the entire kit from Top of the Line for $39 - well worth it. If the wax is worth $15 (S100), then I paid $24 for all the other stuff. Not bad.
 
SoTex,

Thanks for the tip on Top of the Line's Price on the P21S kit. I recently paid $49 elsewhere and thought that was a good deal. Honestly, I love the P21S paint cleaner and Carnuba Wax, which is every bit as good as Zymol HD clense and wax. I feel these 2 P21S products alone are worth the 49 I paid. I may stock up before they raise the price. About 10 years ago I discovered P21S wheel cleaner and regularly paid 12-15 a half-liter for it, I can not bring myself to use anything else on my painted, clear coated alloy wheels. I just wish I could walk into a Wal-mart(or anywhere else for that matter) and buy it off the shelf. hopefully they can get a little bit better distribution which should lower the prices a little too. Lexol used to be strictly mail order too, but recently I have noticed that some auto parts stores are now carrying it and the prices have come down a bit.
 
Great review! My analysis of P21S is "Best carnauba wax you can apply" but also in the same breath, "Least of the longevity waxes" in other words, lasts a very short time.
 
I have heard it is best to buff out the wax immediately after appling it to your section instead of allowing it to dry. Comments?
 
ALAN81 said:
I let it dry for 10 minutes the most they wipe it off with a MF towel BEAUTIFUL



How have you found this method to be alan? The can specifically states NOT to let dry before buffing, for best results... I would have thought letting it dry would make it much harder to remove... I pretty much do a panel, then buff out... no wait! Looks great, comes off like butter!
 
CHRIS, I wait 10 minutes and the wax turns to a white hase against a black car it comes off.Wipe on and wipe off is a little easier but I let it dry and I can see what I am taking off
 
I just picked up some S100 and the paint cleanser at my local Harley dealer since I am getting real low on Souveran. Such a deal-$14.95 for the wax and $8.95 for the paint cleanser. I didn't get home early enough to test it on my car-and it rained anyway. I've got a couple of black cars to detail in the morning-a CL 500 and a 745 Li and I will take pics. I've been using Souveran on them, so I am interested in seeing how they compare.



BTW, Ripsnort-low longevity? It did real well in the Guru tests-of the carnubas, only Collinite lasted longer and P21S outdid everything (including Souveran, Zainos, Klasse, etc) on shine, reflectivity, etc. I get 3 months of beading from Souveran (provided I wash the cars), so if P21S (or S100) lasts that long, I will be happy.
 
I applied P21S 6 weeks ago on half of the roof and trunk. The other half used Meguiars #26. Depth and wet look are similar, but clarity of reflections is superior with P21S. When I washed my red Mazda this morning the was was completely flat. Still looked good, but no beading at all. I had 3M Perfect-It Show Car Paste Wax on the hood and it looked good and beaded (It's been on for 8 weeks)



I'm discouraged about the durability. Cost twice the price for half as much as Meguiars #26, yet performed only marginally better. Am anxious to see how it performs this fall as a topper for Blackfire.



I just got the S100 Gloss enhancing lotion and I will see on a friends car if it holds up better with that under it.
 
I just paid a visit to Pomona Valley Harley Davidson and plunked down 15 bucks for a jar of S100. Can't wait till this weekend to try it!! :xyxthumbs



Also enjoyed being waited on by the hottie biker babes behind the counter... hubba hubba ;)
 
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