P21S same as S100???

[ExplorerXLT95]

I ran into a claim elsewhere that went as such:

From another board

fyi, S100 is basically the same stuff as P21S and it's much cheaper

For users of either or neither, is this true?? I have no direct experience with either product.



Thanks in advance ladies and gents :xyxthumbs



P.S. I would love evidence, if that helps.

 

[MS22]

For all intensive purposes, yes. There are some slight variations but none that you are going to readily notice; none that make P21s worth $20 more.

 

[termigator]

This has actually been debated to death already. Rumor has it over here that it is the same. I suspect that it is a little different since S100 is a translucent yellow and P21S is white. As far as looks go, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference and if you can, you are in an extremely small minority.



I got some S100 myself and I'm just not willing to pay twice the amount for P21S if only maybe one out of fifty people might be able to tell the difference, but that's just me.

 

[SilverLexus]

It's a little different formulation but I only find P21S a little more rich looking on silver than S100. You can't go wrong with either wax.



I like the whole P21S line-great gel wheel cleaner, great paint cleanser GEPC (highly recommended for whichever wax you decide on), and excellent polishing soap for metals.

 

[percynjpn]

It's a little different formulation but I only find P21S a little more rich looking on silver than S100. You can't go wrong with either wax.



I like the whole P21S line-great gel wheel cleaner, great paint cleanser GEPC (highly recommended for whichever wax you decide on), and excellent polishing soap for metals.

I've seen no real evidence that the formulation is actually different; I've used both on silver and other colors, and to my eye there is NO difference in look or durability.

 

[blackntan]

please god, not again...



No one really knows.



If you have the energy, do a search, and you'll see that people have come to blows about this several times already..



But all of the threads are exactly the same..



It all boils down to:



No one really knows.

 

[joburnet]

please god, not again...



No one really knows.



If you have the energy, do a search, and you'll see that people have come to blows about this several times already..



But all of the threads are exactly the same..



It all boils down to:



No one really knows.

Not true!



I called the manufacturer and he said that they were slightly different. so they aren't EXACTLY the same but probably close.

 

[blackntan]

of course he did Joburnet.. Of course he did..



he charges 2x the price for P21S... What do you think he's gonna say?

 

[raymond_ho2002]

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50791&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49014&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46936&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43674&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45990&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44388&highlight=s100+p21s+comparison

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28313&highlight=s100+p21s+comparison

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19703&highlight=s100+p21s+comparison

http://www.autopia.org/forums/showt...1&perpage=18&highlight=p21s s100&pagenumber=1

http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21110

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50755

http://forums.roadfly.org/forums/detailing/5947644-1.html

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39758&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34485&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33885&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32965&highlight=s100+p21s+same

 

[stevet]

of course he did Joburnet.. Of course he did..



he charges 2x the price for P21S... What do you think he's gonna say?

:xyxthumbs

 

[ExplorerXLT95]

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50791&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49014&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46936&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43674&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45990&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44388&highlight=s100+p21s+comparison

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28313&highlight=s100+p21s+comparison

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19703&highlight=s100+p21s+comparison

http://www.autopia.org/forums/showt...1&perpage=18&highlight=p21s s100&pagenumber=1

http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21110

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50755

http://forums.roadfly.org/forums/detailing/5947644-1.html

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39758&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34485&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33885&highlight=s100+p21s+same

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32965&highlight=s100+p21s+same

Alright, alright, I get it.... Sorry, sheesh.



Moderators, please feel free to delete this thread...



Had no idea I was opening such a can of worms. Oh well, thanks for the responses... :xyxthumbs

 

[SilverLexus]

"I've seen no real evidence that the formulation is actually different"



There have been knowledgeable people in the business discuss the difference on RoadFly. It really is a different formulation. I use both a lot and P21S looks better to me.

 

[imported_The Uncle]

There are those who think that Pinnacle products, Trade Secret, and S100 are closely related products.



I'm not saying I believe that, but it is what I read here.

 

[JeffM]

Not again , i am going to scratch out my eyes :soscared: :soscared: :soscared: :soscared:

 

[Bill D]

:nervous2: :soscared: So true!

 

[imported_The Uncle]

Hey! I was just reporting what I read. Did not mean to beat a dead horse!



Personally, I couldn't care less is S100 is identical to anything else or different from everything else. I love the stuff! And, at the end of the day, that is what counts.

 

[joburnet]

I heard that turtle wax and Souverign were the same thing!



I'm not saying that the difference isn't minute, but there probably is some kind of difference. Personally I use S100.

 

[Bill D]

No harm done

I love the stuff! And, at the end of the day, that is what counts.

:up

 

[SDLexus]

I remember someone posting pictures of both containers here and the only difference was the screenprinting of the different logos



I don't think there is any real difference and if there is any I think it would be so minute that it wouldn't be worth the extra expense to get P21S.

 

[percynjpn]

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There have been knowledgeable people in the business discuss the difference on RoadFly. It really is a different formulation. I use both a lot and P21S looks better to me. [/B]

Fair enough!