Optimum Rejiggers Its Spray Polish Line Again?

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Setec Astronomy

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Some of you may remember that last year Optimum updated their spray polishes (Hyper Polish and Hyper Compound), changing the colors (Polish went from pink to blue, Compound went from blue to orange). Both as I recall were supposed to have increased cut while producing a better finish--the color change, while confusing to me, was supposed to match the color of the product to the Optimum waffle buffing pads, in the way some other mfrs. have color-coded their products.

I've looked here http://www.autopia.org/forums/paint...d-5-2015-autopia-polish-comparison-chart.html and I can't really tell if this chart was updated to reflect those 2014 changes to the Hyper products, which shows the Polish at 5 and the Compound at 8.

Well, hold the phone, according to the Optimum forum and store, they have renamed the 2014 Hyper Compound (orange) Intensive Polish, and have a new (2015) Hyper Compound, which is white, and is complemented by a new Hyper Wool Foam Pad. This new compound is supposed to be capable of removing 1000 grit sanding marks...which by my estimation would make it the most aggressive compound out there.

So RAY ( :) ) , can you tell us if the above-linked chart represents the 2014 versions of these products, and when/if/where the new compound will fit in?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
So RAY ( :) ) , can you tell us if the above-linked chart represents the 2014 versions of these products, and when/if/where the new compound will fit in?
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Good catch! The latest chart has not been adjusted for the newest formula. I'll get in touch with Optimum to see where the new polishes will fall into the chart.
 
Do you by any chance have the cut/gloss/price (16 or 32 oz bottle) of the new Intensive Polish? A few days ago I could not find anything on these products.
 
I don't know if that was directed at me, but the "new" Intensive Polish is the orange Hyper Compound. The new product is the new Hyper Compound, which appears to be white. The list prices are the same at $30 for an 18oz spray bottle, and $75 for a 64oz jug. As far as the cut, we're waiting for Ray on that.
 
Technically speaking, if a compound has the ability to remove 1500 grit sanding marks, it should also be able to to remove 1200, 1000 grit and even 800 grit if you really wanted to. What matters more is how quickly it can do it and how the finish will look after. Rarely, if ever, do I hear or see anyone final sanding to 1000 and then buffing?
 
David Fermani said:
Technically speaking, if a compound has the ability to remove 1500 grit sanding marks, it should also be able to to remove 1200, 1000 grit and even 800 grit if you really wanted to. What matters more is how quickly it can do it and how the finish will look after. Rarely, if ever, do I hear or see anyone final sanding to 1000 and then buffing?
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I think the point of saying it can remove 1000 grit marks is to convey how aggressive it is, not that they actually suggest you stop wet sanding with 1000.

Hyper Polish stays the same
Old Hyper Compound is now Intensive Polish
Hyper Compound is the new more aggressive compound

Because the new Hyper Compound is more aggressive, I've found it works much better with a flat pad than a waffle pad, the high points on a waffle pad can leave noticeable wavey looking marring (correctable though) but no issues with a flat pad.

However, Intensive Polish and Hyper Polish seem to work better (for me at least) with a waffle cutting or polishing pad.
 
Hey Scott, thanks for chiming in. Since you've used the compound, is it as aggressive as it would seem from the 1000 grit "rating"? How does it finish out (with a flat pad ;) )?

I'm guessing people are going to want to know how it compares to SHC 300 or FG400 or M100/101/105.
 
I also have same questions as Setec. How about dusting? Does it wipe off as easy as the old compound? Do you normally just spray your pad with the compound or put dots? Or if using rotary put a bead down and pick it up? Thanks Scott
 
Oldfordisbetter said:
Is that what happens? I just put mine in a squeeze bottle, and never messed with the sprayers. But Optimum keeps saying about even coverage on the pad if you spray so I wasnt sure if thats the way I should try to? How do you prefer?
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I always try to use the sprayer for the reason you mention, and over the course of a session, between the inconsistency of the sprayer and my aim, I usually spray the pad, the machine, my hand/arm, the side of the house, passing birds, etc.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I always try to use the sprayer for the reason you mention, and over the course of a session, between the inconsistency of the sprayer and my aim, I usually spray the pad, the machine, my hand/arm, the side of the house, passing birds, etc.
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Lol Thanks Setec, I think im going to have to give it another shot with the sprayer. I believe I tried the sprayer when I first got the compound but that was a good while ago so I dont recall how my aim was.
 
Oldfordisbetter said:
Lol Thanks Setec, I think im going to have to give it another shot with the sprayer. I believe I tried the sprayer when I first got the compound but that was a good while ago so I dont recall how my aim was.
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Since the Optimum Compound and Hyper Polish first came out (about what - 7-8 years ago?) and I purchased both, I have never had consistent performance from the Sprayers, and quickly discarded them in favor of squeeze bottles..
Understand the idea of getting better coverage on the pad on panel, but I can get even better, accurate, coverage using my finger spreading the product on the Pad..

Optimum has always stood behind their Sprayers and sent me a few replacements and they also didnt work much better... It seems like once they get used, if you dont get everything out of them perfectly when you clean them, they will just spray inconsistently everywhere sometimes and I just dont have time to deal with it, so I dont..

Love the products - especially the Hyper-Polish - and always am glad when I find I need it..
Dan F
 
Also would be interesting to near feedback on the wool pad. Someone from the Optimum Australia side told me It's been manufactured by Lake country per optimum spec and cuts aggressively while finishing down great.


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sealthedeal said:
Also would be interesting to near feedback on the wool pad. Someone from the Optimum Australia side told me It's been manufactured by Lake country per optimum spec and cuts aggressively while finishing down great.
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Yeah, it is different...this is what they say about it: "Optimum Hyper™Wool Foam Pad is the first and only hybrid wool pad of its kind". It's not like a PFW pad, it's like a MF pad (in that it has a foam backing) but it's got purple wool attached to the foam instead of MF.
 
Hyper Polish - Blue, New Hyper Compound - White, Old Hyper Compound now Intensive Polish is Orange. Still trying to sort through the waffle vs flat pad debate, but Optimum's designs are very unique. Can't wait to try the new HC along with the wool pad.
 
Woob said:
Hyper Polish - Blue, New Hyper Compound - White, Old Hyper Compound now Intensive Polish is Orange. Still trying to sort through the waffle vs flat pad debate, but Optimum's designs are very unique. Can't wait to try the new HC along with the wool pad.
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Keep us posted with how they perform for you.


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Just heard back from Optimum...

The new Hyper Compound will be moved into #10/10 on the aggression scale and Hyper Polisher will be moved to #6/10.

The Polish Comparison Chart will be updated by the end of today.
 
Now I just have to remember that the old stuff was 5 & 8....and last year's was 6 & 8...and this year's is 6 & 10 with the Intensive at 8. That's actually pretty interesting that the Hyper Polish (blue version) is now 2 steps more aggressive than the Optimum Polish II (crème).
 
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