Optimum Opti-Seal VS Zaino Clear Seal

[Dan]

Both are good products but I suspect that ZPC has the better UV system.

How did you come to this conclusion?

 

[Dan]

Ultima Paint Guard Plus...WOWA.

It has some shine, and gives off some impressive reflections at certain angles making for great photos, but IRL it looks so much worse than Opti-seal. Opti-seal has way more depth and range. Durability seems similar.

 

[Eisen Hulk]

I've used both, and I would lean more toward the OS. Slightly better look, IMO. As far as durability goes, it would give the advantage to OS as well. My dos pesos, David.

 

[NSXTASY]

I've been through an entire bottle of ZCS and am not impressed with looks, protection or durability. I've been through half a bottle of OS and am similarly unimpressed. I would look elsewhere, gtechniq sounds interesting.



If your using these for customers and can reapply at least once a month, if not more frequently, it should work fine. Both products are mediocre IMO.

 

[rdorman]

Seems the OP has his consensus!

 

[juliom2]

Ultima Paint Guard Plus is a Plus!!! The once has a better price now too.

:waxing:

 

[wannafbody]

I've been through an entire bottle of ZCS and am not impressed with looks, protection or durability. I've been through half a bottle of OS and am similarly unimpressed. I would look elsewhere, gtechniq sounds interesting.



If your using these for customers and can reapply at least once a month, if not more frequently, it should work fine. Both products are mediocre IMO.

A WOWO product isn't going to have the durability of a regular sealant. They are convenience products. I've gotten some extreme durability out of CS on coated aluminum sheeting though. Personally, I think that Z8 looks better than CS but CS over ZAIO on red looks quite nice. I've gotten the impression that Zaino has a unique UV system.

 

[wannafbody]

CS is finicky about water and applicators. CS needs a dedicated, dry applicator. Today for kicks I used CS with a washed foam applicator that had previously been used with ZAIO and got streaks galore.

 

[GatorJ]

This thread is about ZCS & OS - please start your own thread or send a PM if you feel the to go off on a totally unrelated and unhelpful tagent (sic)!!!

Sorry, I didn't realize you had intentionally excluded better performing products from the discussion!!!

 

[GatorJ]

This thread is about ZCS & OS - please start your own thread or send a PM if you feel the to go off on a totally unrelated and unhelpful tagent!!!

It's quite helpful....UPGP is a better product. I guess you forgot this language in your initial post:



"Looking for a faster alternative to wipe on / wipe off LSPs."



I gave you one.

 

[David Fermani]

Based on the bottle of Z-CS I got Opti-Seal is a much better product. Noticeably more gloss and shine and cheaper per ounce.

i have the zcs and it allways leaves a resedue. i really dont like the zcs.

ZCS will streak if it comes in contact with water

Opti-Seal seems to last a little longer

In a side by side comparison, the Opti Seal outperformed on both looks and beading. The Opti Seal was noticeably wetter looking and beaded water more too.

I've used the ZCS in the past a few times with very poor and disappointing results. It streaks no matter what applicator you use, how little amount you use, Now I'm using the Opti-Seal. Nearly no comparison! Never had a streaking problem. I'm amazed of the results.Optimum has convinced me!

Opti-seal has way more depth and range.

I've used both, and I would lean more toward the OS. Slightly better look, IMO. As far as durability goes, it would give the advantage to OS as well.

I've been through an entire bottle of ZCS and am not impressed with looks, protection or durability. I would look elsewhere, gtechniq sounds interesting.

CS is finicky about water and applicators. CS needs a dedicated, dry applicator. Today I used CS and got streaks galore.

:idea:idea:idea

Seems the OP has his consensus!

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I sure do! I've already been through a bottle of ZCS, but only used it on wheels & door jambs and it seems ok, nothing super special. Have yet to test it on exterior paint but want to try OS 1st. I really like alot of products in each company's arsenal, but thought I'd review people's judgement in regards to each WOWA offering. Thanks for convincing me that OS is worth a try and might be a better product. We'll see how it works.

 

[David Fermani]

I've got some ZCS that I've had sitting on the shelf for a couple of years if you want to try it. I'm probably not going to use it. Take that for what it's worth.

Thanks for the offer! Much appreciated.

 

[getcha]

I was also in a debate between OOS and ZCS. I took OOS and will not look back. I had a chance to use a new bottle of ZCS and I will say that in humid weather(and other weather for that matter) OOS was much easier to apply. There was less streaking and it flashed off much faster. I also like the fact that this thin, runny clear sealant has some seriously amazing depth to it. You could easily put it on any car and it will look amazing. I dont know if you can say the same thing about the semi sterile looking CS

 

[wannafbody]

It's quite helpful....UPGP is a better product. I guess you forgot this language in your initial post:



"Looking for a faster alternative to wipe on / wipe off LSPs."



I gave you one.

Near equal maybe, but better no. Ultima won't make it past the 3 month mark. After having 2 different Ultima products gunk up in the bottle and the performance fall off as a result I'd suggest Optimum over Ultima.

 

[porta]

I realy like OOS, it's a little bit cheaper then Ultima but the the same performance.

 

[imported_Bence]

It's quite helpful....UPGP is a better product. I guess you forgot this language in your initial post:



"Looking for a faster alternative to wipe on / wipe off LSPs."



I gave you one.

UPGP is NOT a wipe on/wipe off product. It's a WOWA, aka wipe on/walk away sealant.



However, based on my extensive use, I find that OOS is superior to UPGP.

UPGP has a definite look from flatter angles, yet it somehow loses it when the viewing angle is between 70-110 degrees. In this region it looks *dull*, nothing special. The other issue is water management. Where OOS sheets very completely, water droplets cling to UPGP (even on an open, vertical trunklid).



OOS has a definite edge over other WOWAs.

 

[imported_sal3291]

I have not used ZCS but I really do like OOS. It looks great, great on windows as well. On my 94 Lincoln Mark VIII I did a mini detail in Dec used 3 coats of OOS and the car was drivin every day until Feb from Feb until June the car sat outside in direct sun. The water beaded on the car for 4 months, when I washed I used a neighbors pressure washer he was impressed on how the dirt blew off. Just the water and no soap the car looked clean. OOS in my book is great and worth the $$$

 

[Dan]

However, based on my extensive use, I find that OOS is superior to UPGP.

UPGP has a definite look from flatter angles, yet it somehow loses it when the viewing angle is between 70-110 degrees. In this region it looks *dull*, nothing special. The other issue is water management. Where OOS sheets very completely, water droplets cling to UPGP (even on an open, vertical trunklid).

I agree 100%, in fact so much that I thought the first batch I had was defective and got a second. When it was the flavor de jour, everyone was layering with with DWG, which helped a bit.

 

[wannafbody]

UPGP is NOT a wipe on/wipe off product. It's a WOWA, aka wipe on/walk away sealant.



However, based on my extensive use, I find that OOS is superior to UPGP.

UPGP has a definite look from flatter angles, yet it somehow loses it when the viewing angle is between 70-110 degrees. In this region it looks *dull*, nothing special. The other issue is water management. Where OOS sheets very completely, water droplets cling to UPGP (even on an open, vertical trunklid).



OOS has a definite edge over other WOWAs.

Agreed, Ultima had fast sheeting for the first wash but the sheeting action was dead after the second wash for me with NXT soap.

 

[2007TBSS]

OP, have a chance to give it a go yet? I may do a few friends cars this summer and would like something that easy, durable, and looks great. Seems like this might be it. What's the deal with the the windows? Any negative effects from using this on windows?