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imported_dickie

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Hi,



I just came across this web site the other day, and I have to say I am very impressed with the wealth of knowledge on tap. Unfortunately for me though, in Ireland it rains almost 300 days of the year, and very few people are interested in detailing. Most of the shops just carry cheap turtle wax products. However I have always made an effort, and have used Autoglym super resing polish and extra gloss protection with great success. I believe Klasse gives similar results.



Anyway; I just bought an Alfa Romeo 156, and the dealer managed to source some 3m IHG and Blitz wax for me. I was wondering how this would compare with the autoglym treatment. I'd imagine that since IHG doesnt have any cleaning or sealing properties, I would still be better off using autoglym. The question I have, is whether it would be possible to apply Blitz ontop of the Autoglym extra gloss protection. I realise Autoglym isn't that popular in the U.S., so I'm guessing a similar idea would be to apply the Klasse system, followed by Blitz.



Any advice would be appreciated



thanks

Flaccus
 
I'm sure that using the Autoglym topped with the Blitz would work fine. Like you said, it would just be like using the Klasse twins as a base with Blitz on top.



The IHG is more of a pure polish that is used to improve the shine (with little protective properties) before sealing it in with something like Blitz. It certainly has its uses, but it's very different from the resin-based Autoglym protectants which actually provide good long-term protection. There are a few members here who use Autoglym. Try doing a search and I'm sure you'll find plenty of info.



HTH!



BTW, great car!! Congratulations!
 
Flaccus, welcome to the forum. Firstly, great car :up and secondly Ireland - my favourite country.

Blitz wax can be used on top of Autoglym, I have been doing this for the last year or so. IMO Blitz is better on top of the Super Resin but someone else puts it on top of the Gloss. So the best thing to do is try both and see what you think. BTW, Blitz can be bought in England from www.frost.co.uk.

Get yourself some foam pads and MicroFibre Towels and your go to go. If I can help in any way, just ask or send me a PM.

Steven
Alfa 164
Cumbria UK
 
Thanks for the info. Very helpful.



As the weather and road conditions here in Ireland are so bad, and my car is kept outdoors all the time, my big concern is with light scratches, micro-maring and road tar. So it is important that I try to keep my paint in good condition and protect it. Especially as the car is only a few weeks old.



I have managed to find a website that will mailorder to Ireland many of the products recommended by people on this forum. Unfortunately they only carry Klasse AIO, and no Klasse Sealant Glaze. This probably would have been my first choice.



So I have decided on 1 of the following solutions. I would appreciate any feedback.



Option1

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Meguiars Medalion Paint Cleaner or #9 Swirl Remover

(which is better for helping with micro-marring)

followed by

Meguiars Show Car Glaze #5

followed by

Meguairs Medalian Paint Protector



Option 2

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3M SMR for light cars (does this clean the paint also)

followed by

3M IHG to add some gloss

followed by

One Grand Blitz



Not sure if I am missing a paint cleaner for Option 2.



thx
 
Since you have access to Klasse AIO may I suggest option 3.



Option 3

3M SMR

Klasse AIO

Top it off with Blitz



The SMR will remove any light swirls from the paint. The Klasse AIO will give a good polymer sealant base (with plenty of shine) which will last for several months. Klasse AIO is also a very easy product to work with. The Blitz will add depth to the finish and will last much longer than most waxes.



Just a thought. :nixweiss
 
Excellent idea. I actually already have some Blitz.

So just the 3M SMR and Klasse AIO is all I need now.



A few quick questions though :



1. Should I apply 3M SMR to the whole car, or just where I see micro-marring and swirls. Will it clean the paint also ? (I read Meguairs Medalion Paint cleaner cleans and removes swirls).



2. You suggest using Klasse AIO. I already own a bottle Autoglym Super Resin polish. So I was wondering would this give similar results.



3. Doesn't 3m SMR contain fillers. So wouldn't the Klasse or Autoglym remove these.



4. For removing swirls on small areas of the car from time to time, what would you recommend 3M SMR also, or something like Scratch-X etc...



thx again
 
If your dealer can get hold of AIO why cant he sell SG - it just seems a little strange. I also meant to tell you about www.Iauto.co.uk they sell P21S products which are well regarded on this forum.

I am sorry I cant help with SMR as I have not used it. It might be worth doing a search on SMR.

Steven
 
1. No SMR will not "clean" the paint. To remove embedded particles you will need to use a clay or a paintwork cleanser. You can use SMR on the whole car if it needs it. If only certian area needs it then just use it on those areas. I don't think one should use abrasives unless you have to.



2. I can't really tell you much about Autoglym, I have not used it. Maybe some of our European friends can chime in about this.



3. Yes, SMR has oils and fillers. I know Klasse AIO will remove the oils and fillers from the SMR, but I can't comment on Autoglym.



4. I my expierence Scratch-X pretty much sucks. SMR is pretty good for removing very minor stuff that comes with day to day wear. But, remember you don't want to be polishing your car with abrasives every week unless it necessary.
 
Autoglym Super Resin is a polish but I can only guess it will remove oils and fillers. 3M do a good clay bar (part number 38070). Scratch-X does not seem to have a good reputation, it is better to try and remove any imperfections rather than hide them (easy to say, harder to do - but possible)



Steven
 
I've had a bottle of this stuff lying around since last fall, but never really gave it a shot. I hate washing my vehicles at home because I have hard water and usually have to wash in the sun. So, I get awful water spots, even when I rinse carefully and try to dry quickly. I use a leaf blower with a water wand attachment, but the water is still hard to blow off...it seems to cling to the surface, even though I use BFWD as a final step (makes the paint pretty smooth and slick).

So, used ONR as directed: one panel at a time, from the top down. What amazed me is that I still used my blower/wand attachment, but the water just RUSHED off the paint, leaving me very little wiping to do with a microfiber. And it sure fixed my hard water issues, leaving no streaks or spots. Wipedown was very painless.

I'm not sure I saved much time over the old hose-rinse method, but the results were sure worth it. I'll sure be using it in the future.

Jim
 
ONR is a great product. I will use the leaf blower last (to blow out cracks) only because if ONR dries it can be a little stubborn to remove.

 
IMHO, ONR is the single greatest detailing product on the market. It is so versatile. There are just so many uses for it. Once you get the hang of it, you will find that your wash time will be far less then a traditional wash.
 
I don't use it! Never have and probably never will since getting hooked on Prima Hydro Seal, which doesn't play well with polymer soaps.

Do other polymer sealants play well with ONR?
 
bmw5541 said:
IMHO, ONR is the single greatest detailing product on the market. It is so versatile. There are just so many uses for it. Once you get the hang of it, you will find that your wash time will be far less then a traditional wash.
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+1! I usually use 1.5 oz/2 gallons due to the hard water out here.
 
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