One-steps?

Seems like there is lots of definitions of 1 step polishing. personally and i think what the op was considering one step would be one pad, one polish, and one time around the vehicle. Having to switch from a cutting pad to a finish pad for me would be another step even if I'm using the same polish and not going around the vehicle more than once...



just my 2 cents.
 
I agree Shane, but I think this topic has gone off. I was mainly wondering with a one-step, are people doing this for customers much faster than their normal polishing work.
 
IHA Mark said:
I had an interesting mini-discussion with a gentlemen on another forum about this topic. He was flabbergasted that my "1 step polish" takes 45-90 minutes depending on the vehicle. He said that his "1 step" takes 8 hours minimum.



It seems to me that when if I need to do 4-6 different passes with a polish to get the correction I need, I'm would be wasting a lot of time by not using a more aggressive product to cut down on the steps, then finishing with the polish. I could not imagine doing 4-6 passes on 1 panel with polish just to say that I'm within "1 step".



I told him that we were probably missing each other on the difference between a "1 step polish" and a "1 step correction".



He was a bit snooty and said yes we were. :)





Any thoughts on this? It seems like everyone defines 1 step completely different.
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If you're performing more than one polishing cycle on a section then it's not longer a 1-step IMO. Now I can see doing a second step with that same product/pad/tool to remove a few random defects here and there for the client and still call it a 1-step, but at the end of the day 1-step is exactly what it reads. If you are doing 4-6 polishing cycles on the whole car with the same pad/polish/tool, it's more than one step, and you're definitely wasting time!!! I understand "we want to use the least aggressive method to get the job done", but I think that the user may be miss understanding that rule of thumb. We have more aggressive pads and polishes for a reason. ;)
 
dfoxengr said:
I agree Shane, but I think this topic has gone off. I was mainly wondering with a one-step, are people doing this for customers much faster than their normal polishing work.
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If you're using an AIO for your 1-step then it should be significantly faster than a regular polish. You can probably short cycle some SMAT style polishes to speed things up as well, but if you're using a DAT style polish it's going to take "x" amount of passes for it to break down and short cycling it can possibly result in micro marring.





My $.02
 
So even a heavier cut DAT product like Menzerna Power Finish or even SIP could be used as a 1-step due to the particles diminishing right? Assuming the final result doens't produce negative effects.
 
dfoxengr said:
So even a heavier cut DAT product like Menzerna Power Finish or even SIP could be used as a 1-step due to the particles diminishing right? Assuming the final result doens't produce negative effects.
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Power Finish, yes, on most paints, but I would use a DA and I personally wouldn't try doing it with a rotary. SIP could probably be used on some harder clears or light colors where light hazing would not be visible, but again I would only do it with a DA.
 
powerfinish is a great one step on anything but black! for black cars, its either a two step, or a one step with something like menzerna 106
 
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