Ok, what did I do wrong?

uconn1150

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A few days ago, I used fine cut, SMR for dark colors, 2 coats of Blackfire polish and 3 coats of Blackfire protectant. Looks great in the daylight. At night though, there are distinct "rows" of haze. How did I do that? :nixweiss and How do I fix it? :nixweiss The paint is red, and I used my PC.



TIY!:bow
 
uconn1150 said:
A few days ago, I used fine cut, SMR for dark colors, 2 coats of Blackfire polish and 3 coats of Blackfire protectant. Looks great in the daylight. At night though, there are distinct "rows" of haze. How did I do that? :nixweiss and How do I fix it? :nixweiss The paint is red, and I used my PC.



TIY!:bow



Oh, and I used the CMA yellow for the fine cut, washed it (I think and hope!) then used the SMR with the yellow pad, then the polish with the white pad, and the protectant with the gray pad.



Could the pad still have had fine cut in it? The polish should have cleared any haze from the fine cut and SMR, right?



The rows of "haze" are separated by rows of "non-hazed" paint...
 
DavidB said:
Explain what you mean by "rows of haze?"



A pic is worth a thousand words, but I will have to draw for now...



Hood

Front

_________

| @ @ @ @ |

| @ @ @ @ |

| @ @ @ @ |

| @ @ @ @ |

| @ @ @ @ |

| @ @ @ @ |

| @ @ @ @ |

| @ @ @ @ |

Windshield



The @'s represent a haze. very linear, obviously from the pc, but only in rows, and as seen above, not covering the entire hood...also, it looks perfect in the day time, only at night can the rows of haze be seen...



Thanks Again!
 
Oh, I forgot that between the fine cut, I then used FI-II, and then SMR...like I said before, it came out great and looks great, but at night there are row of haze separated by rows of "perfect" paint!
 
JeffBruce said:
A digital picture would be best. Can you borrow one..

jeff



I don't think that it would work at night, and if I use flash, the haze will not be apparent. I guess I should just go back and redo the hood...the rest of the car, especially the roof and trunk came out perfect...only the hood looks funky.
 
Well, it's really hard to say without seeing the paint. However, one of the products you used was not applied 100% correctly. If the SMR did not break down all the way it could leave a haze. The BF can also leave haze if you apply it too thick, but that is unlikely because you used a PC.
 
JustinTRW said:
Well, it's really hard to say without seeing the paint. However, one of the products you used was not applied 100% correctly. If the SMR did not break down all the way it could leave a haze. The BF can also leave haze if you apply it too thick, but that is unlikely because you used a PC.



I think you are right, how far back should I go to reapplying...back to the FI-II then SMR, or simply start with the SMR!



Thanks Justin:xyxthumbs
 
Just use the SMR.

Always use the least aggressive product required.

If the SMR isnt working then try moving up to FI-II but the SMR should work.
 
Here's my tutorial on PC use to prevent such hazing (I've had it happen to me too, so don't feel bad.) that I've discovered to work about 99.99% of the time.



Firstly, be sure to only work one half of the hood at a time, this concentrates the abrasives and heat more and tends to correct more defects, better.



1) Work in a side-to-side pattern, on one whole half of the hood (from the front all the way to the back)



2) Work in a front-to-back battern, on one whole half of the hood (from the edge all the way to the halfway point.)



3) Work in a diagonal pattern, on one whole half of hood. Be sure to cover everything.



4) Work in a front-to-bakc pattern, on one whole half of the hood (from the edge all the way to the halfway point.)



Work this 4-step cycle over again until all product is broken down. Always end with #4, so your final pass is front-to-back. I believe this to minimize the appearance of defects. I also like to think that it helps the aerodynamics of the vehicle to some part (I know it doesnt really, but its just wishful thinking on my part).



When buffing the residue and dust off the surface, go 90-degrees perpendicular to your final pass with the PC. This will pull more of the residue off than going in other directions will.



Repeat on the other half of your hood, and you're done!



As for your existing problem, try this 4-step process with some mild paint cleaner, such as PPCL. Work it at ~speed 4, and see if the hazing is gone. If so, continue by applying a different glaze such as Meguiar's #7 Show Car Glaze, topping it with a wax.



I usually do a PPCL and re-glaze with #7 anyways after an SMRing, because I find that by removing the SMR fillers and adding #7, the surface becomes much more reflective. Also you might want to work-in the wax topper you are using a little bit with this same procedure to make sure the wax isnt whats hazing on you.



Hope this helps!



Pic:



PC_Demo.jpg
 
Shiny - What is the purpose the the diag #3 step? Coverage wise, side to side and front to back get everything done.





UConn - You probably do not even need SMR to remove the haze, but you could use it. You could get away with something less abrasive.
 
JustinTRW - the diagonal step is in there to prevent too "linear" of a polishing technique - it works the polish in at yet another angle which I find helps to increase the ammount of shine.



Truth be told, I do diagonals two directions (opposite of the one I drew, making what would appear an "x" pattern. ;) But thats just my autopian overkill kicking in.
 
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