OCW - find it difficult to apply

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citanest

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Hi there,

I have been using OCW for some time now but never seem to get it right. I use MF towel as per the instruction. I always find myself leaving some spots and they are difficult to be removed once it's dried.

I will just have to wait until the next car wash and get them off.

Am I apply too much or should I try using an applicating pad instead?

Can some experts show me the light?



thanks.

RC
 
citanest said:
Hi there,

I have been using OCW for some time now but never seem to get it right. I use MF towel as per the instruction. I always find myself leaving some spots and they are difficult to be removed once it's dried.

I will just have to wait until the next car wash and get them off.

Am I apply too much or should I try using an applicating pad instead?

Can some experts show me the light?



thanks.

RC
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Hi RC,



I've found the same thing as well.

It dries pretty quickly and its still slick but has some sort of hazing effect...not sure if I described it correctly.



Buffing it over and over again removes some of it but not all.

I found that if I use a detailer spray, re-dry some areas, I get get more of it off but it takes quite some time.



I can't tell if I have 2.0 or 1.0...



The problem happens mainly on black cars. On a Silver car, it worked fine but maybe its because its hard to see.



Thanks RC, I thought I was the only one.
 
Wow, I've never found OCW residue to be difficult to remove, but anyway. I like to use two towels with these kinds of products, one to spread and work the product, and a second to remove. Since I just got a bunch of Blue Perl applicators on the cheap (not as good quality as the old ones I have), I think I'm going to try one of them next time for spreading.



Anyway, I've never had any problem like that, so I'd guess you're using too much, but I have the original version, maybe you have the new stuff.
 
Same here setec. OCW is one of my easiest to apply lsps. I have never ever had any thing happen like that.



I use one of those yellow and red sonus towels. They are thin, looks like a waffle weave, but they're soft as hell.



Fold the mf a few times. Spray the mf once to prime it. Spray the panel, work it in with the primed side than wipe down a few times with the dry side. I don't even need to buff it off. Just wipe it down real quick and its gone. I have had a few spots that I missed, but they were never difficult to get off. Just wipe it with an mf.



I've used ocw in the full sun many times also and never had issues. You just need to spread it faster.



I really over apply this stuff also. I doubt that's the problem. This is with the new version with the black car on the label. Which version are you using?
 
Dsoto87 said:
Same here setec. OCW is one of my easiest to apply lsps. I have never ever had any thing happen like that.



I use one of those yellow and red sonus towels. They are thin, looks like a waffle weave, but they're soft as hell.



Fold the mf a few times. Spray the mf once to prime it. Spray the panel, work it in with the primed side than wipe down a few times with the dry side. I don't even need to buff it off. Just wipe it down real quick and its gone. I have had a few spots that I missed, but they were never difficult to get off. Just wipe it with an mf.



I've used ocw in the full sun many times also and never had issues. You just need to spread it faster.



I really over apply this stuff also. I doubt that's the problem. This is with the new version with the black car on the label. Which version are you using?
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Hmm, could not attach a picture but its the one with a black car. So I guess that's the new version.



As mentioned it works great on silver. Worked as advertised.

I guess its some something peculiar on this black car. Maybe something is interfering with it.

I will try try again :)



Thanks.
 
I have the same problem, hence the reason my OCW v2 has been sitting on the shelf about 97% full for about 8 months now...



I would mist it on the panel, use a MF to wipe it off, and there would be streaky residue, and spots all over! I had to get out the QD and do a lot of rubbing to remove, which defeats the whole purpose!



OCW v1 was an amazing product! shouldn't have changed it at all!!!
 
I love the stuff. Easy on and I'd say easy off. Like Setec Astronomy said, two towels. I don't think letting it set up and dry too long would be good. I pretty much wipe it on a given area or panel, and wipe it off- less than a few minutes between on and off.
 
I have never had a problem at all. I use the shagrag from rag shack and spritz the panel and buff. No residue of any kind. Toyotaguy how much you want for your dusty bottle lol, I ahve some Natty's red or Chemical Guys EZ Creme or Wolfgang Sealant.
 
I've only used the new version a few times, but have used the old a lot in the past. No issues here with either product, probably one of my favorite LSPs.



Spritz a little on the panel, spread with an MF, take another MF and buff to a nice shine. I seriously have zero qualms about this stuff, I get consistent results and ease of use every time.



I am always using it over another product (usually Poli-Seal), maybe that is why I get such good results with it?
 
I have had the same issue with ocw flashing either too fast or leaving streaks and spots. I added 1 ounce of water to the bottle and have not had an issue since.
 
Setec pm me if you want a sample.



To the OP, I never read the directions on the bottle but are you actually letting it set up and haze?



When I apply I hardly let it set up. Just wipe on and wipe off.
 
Ive also seen it a dust magnet.



Also have had problems on raw paint, used as a LSP. Cleaning up polish it works well.
 
We go through the stuff by the gallons, great product. We apply and remove without letting it haze over in teams of 2, one apply's the other buffs. For teh static issue, change towels, in most cases that was the problem
 
I bought a gallon of version 1.0 and have never had an issue with it ..... IME it is best to not use it unless the ambient temperature is at least 45 degrees. My favorite use is after I do an ONR wash I spray the OCW on before drying the ONR wash and remove both with a dedicated waffle weave (they never seem to dry quite as well after using them in this manner).



I may never use all of this and would be more than happy to send someone a pint or quart at my cost plus shipping or would be willing to trade for some decent leather cleaner/conditioner or an aggressive polish.
 
citanest and corrswitch,



Your descriptions are definitely weird. OCW is one of the absolutely easiest products in existence.



However, I saw people apply spray waxes in very *special* ways.



- First funny drama was when the guy started to spray the product on like crazy and bathed the entire panel in spray wax. It was dripping all over the place. He started to wipe it and he was upset because the towel got wet in no time and he hated working with soaked towels. At the end he said "it's a ****** stuff, because you have to use far too much, you have to change towels after every panel, so it's crap".



- Second was a similar turn, but this guy used a MF applicator after he bathed the panel to spread the product around. He shook his head in disbelief and he didn't understand why he was doing it. He put down the applicator and let the product haze... I didn't want to interrupt him so I followed the story and boy, it was fascinating! After a couple of minutes he started to wipe it down when a few dried spots were visible on the surface. The guy was swearing quite a bit, and wiped the surface so hard that the towel left marks on the finish. Again, "what a #&@ß$ product".



I've found both cases absolutely unbelievable and can't explain what these guys were *thinking* (although these processes must have been strictly simplified mechanical versions of the original bioelectric one).



The I demoed them that you have to spritz once, and lightly buff until it disappears. Rusty cogs started to move in the brains, emergency power was back. There was no blinding lighbulb yet, but they started to crank their own little built-in dynamo to produce light... They asked "is it enough?", "how do you know if it's enough?". Well, if it's slick everywhere, the film is established and the actives are there.
 
i've never had an issue with ocw whether applying by hand or with my pc, which i use most of the time. i put a mf bonnet over a foam pad, spritz and buff, i love the stuff.
 
I find OCW to be the easiest to use LSP that I own (and I own a black car). Quick spray to prime the MF, then a light spray or two per panel, wipe it down, then done.
 
toyotaguy said:
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OCW v1 was an amazing product! shouldn't have changed it at all!!!
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The company that supplies the UV protection additive changed the formula which required modifying the whole make-up of the producct. I haven't had any problems with the new formula streaking, use it regularly on a customer's black Z06.



Even though the new formula doesn't seem to visibly seperate like the old one did after it sits a while, still give it a good shake. Could be something settling that is causing the problem.
 
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