NXT vs. Z2 vs. Klasse SG Cleaning Test (56K warning)

i'd say nxt succeeds at its attempt.



its an over the counter store for anyone. apply it right after washing, get a good shine and good cleaning with some slight swirl hiding. cost is cheap and it is easy to get...



for the more serious detailer who wants to layer sealants and top with waxes it doesn't seem like a great choice though.
 
Here is the truth... I was the one how told Afshin about the nail polish...wanted to kill him when he told me what he've done over the phone.... Beatriz (Afshin's wife)
 
MBZ 500E said:
Here is the truth... I was the one how told Afshin about the nail polish...wanted to kill him when he told me what he've done over the phone.... Beatriz (Afshin's wife)
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:lol Bwahahahaha! Best Autopia post ever!
 
I was wondering if Spray Wax NXT layers on tope of Tech Wax. I was able to get slightly better reflection after a layer of tech wax over NXT but want to know if it gets thicker with each application. Also, Klasse 2xAIO and 2xSG yielded equal shine to 4xNXT tech wax on my recent work. I will have to go with Klasse if I cannot find a layering solution for NXT because Klasse achieves a higher level of durability and shine and depth with SG.
 
wow, i had exactly the same opinion like wang. I just bought the spray wax just to try it out. I washed my car then while the car was still wet i sprayed the nxt spray wax and then spread it evenly on the car. I let it hazed, then buffed it out. This product reminds me of CGQ of crystal guard. After buffing, it looked like my paint good even darker and he reflection improved. Since, meguiars next tech wax seems to have some cleaner properties, they made the spray wax as the product to be layered on top of the nxt tech wax. If so, thats really great because a spray wax is a lot easier to apply.
 
This has been a really wild, informative thread, probably the best I've ever read:



So what have we learned so far about NXT?



1) NXT has some cleaning ability



2) It will remove ZAINO



3) It will remove black "permanent" marker



4) It's designed more around for the "lazy" DIY car waxers: "More than one coat of wax a year!!! God forbid!"



OK, so the NXT cleans...I think we can all agree on that.



Steve did a basic durability test under the conditions that NXT might see with a 'Shade tree, once-a-year waxer.' What I'm interested seeing now is how well it performs by Autopian standards AFTER a full prep, from a *heavy polishing (DACP or the like) all the way to the final topper. Lord knows there's enough of use here with widely differing techniques & product favorites that most of the variables could be accounted for.



I think we're all on the same page (or pretty close) as for what happens when you apply NXT...let's see what happens a month or so down the road...IF any of us can keep from putting a coat of anything on our cars for that long (other then the NXT Booster)...perhaps those who have done the full work-up on a customer's car, finishing with NXT could help out here...
 
Don M said:
This has been a really wild, informative thread, probably the best I've ever read:



So what have we learned so far about NXT?



1) NXT has some cleaning ability



2) It will remove ZAINO



3) It will remove black "permanent" marker



OK, so the NXT cleans...I think we can all agree on that.



What I'm interested seeing now is how well it performs by Autopian standards AFTER a full prep, from a *heavy polishing (DACP or the like) all the way to the final topper. Lord knows there's enough of use here with widely differing techniques & product favorites that most of the variables could be accounted for.



I think we're all on the same page (or pretty close) as for what happens when you apply NXT...let's see what happens a month or so down the road...IF any of us can keep from putting a coat of anything on our cars for that long (other then the NXT Booster)...perhaps those who have done the full work-up on a customer's car, finishing with NXT could help out here...
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1. Yup NXT has cleaning ability.



2. Yes it will remove Zaino



3. It will not remove black permanent marker! Look back at my posts for the results.:(



I actually did a full prep on my car this past weekend using DACP, 1ZPP and NXT. Here's a picture of the results.http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33024



Hope I don't get flamed for this but I've done my own visual comparison of NXT vs Souveran, S100, #26, GC, Zaino, #20 and on my paint NXT was 2nd in appearance. The best appearance came from Souveran but the tradeoffs were too much dusting, white residue in my paint chips and cost. I'd also imagine that NXT has better durability than Souveran.



Oh and Nxt has already saved my paint from 3 bird bombs so I'm happy.:xyxthumbs
 
I can't believe this thread got to 10 pages!



Regardless of any cleaning capabilities that NXT has (and they seem to be pretty mild), the main issue should be the following:



When used as directed, does NXT give you the look and durability you want.



It is really that simple.
 
Scottwax said:
I can't believe this thread got to 10 pages!



Regardless of any cleaning capabilities that NXT has (and they seem to be pretty mild), the main issue should be the following:



When used as directed, does NXT give you the look and durability you want.



It is really that simple.
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If NXT cleans the surface it is applied to, and *if* NXT cleans Vanilla Moose, then what's the point in applying NXT on top of Vanilla Moose?



I think there's a lot of psychological stuff going on with these detailing techniques. "This gives a better look that this because this and that" even when they probably don't look all that much different. :nixweiss
 
Corey Bit Spank said:
If NXT cleans the surface it is applied to, and *if* NXT cleans Vanilla Moose, then what's the point in applying NXT on top of Vanilla Moose?
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Because VM is more aggressive (at least slightly so) and that extra bit of polishing will not be removed by NXT.



I think there's a lot of psychological stuff going on with these detailing techniques. "This gives a better look that this because this and that" even when they probably don't look all that much different. :nixweiss
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I never said anything about a better look, I said "When used as directed, does NXT give you the look ... you want."



The point is, if any product is used as suggested and you are happy with the results all the rest of this stuff may be interesting, but in the end meaningless if the product makes you happy with its performance.
 
Scottwax said:
Because VM is more aggressive (at least slightly so) and that extra bit of polishing will not be removed by NXT.







I never said anything about a better look, I said "When used as directed, does NXT give you the look ... you want."



The point is, if any product is used as suggested and you are happy with the results all the rest of this stuff may be interesting, but in the end meaningless if the product makes you happy with its performance.
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tu che to me. :up
 
Think about this, NXT is marketed to the consumer masses and for people that generally are not as detailed as we are, therefore they need an all-in-one product that cleans and waxes...For us OCD types, we buy products made specifically for each step, not all-in-ones...JMHO
 
spetulla said:
for the more serious detailer who wants to layer sealants and top with waxes it doesn't seem like a great choice though. [/B]
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This is the part I don't get?



If you have a product ( NXT) that can get the job done in 1 or 2 coats. Why would you want to layer a product?



Are you ( some Autopians) just that bored?:confused:



I used to be a VERY loyal Zaino user.

See this thread: when I first appeared here and only wanted Zaino on my car.

Nice warm welcome by the way.

http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30265&highlight=Scottsdale



After 2 or 3 coats I could see no more depth or shine.

If it is a 99.9% optically clear product/ Z-2 ( As per the manufactuers advertising.) Then explain to me how more layers is going to make a 99.9% clear product better.

Now there is marketing Hype. Mutiple layers mean less in the bottle, which mean less $$ in your pocket.



Scottwax how many cars have you now done with one bottle of $ 14 NXT?



Z-5 Makes swirl marks disappear like magic! Talk about hype! Took that right from the Zanio website. We all ( almost all) know that isn't true.



Just more Hype for the system... errrrr $80



Now a very good product comes out, that is eaiser, fills swirls and leaves a equal or better finish than Zaino. People want to rip it?



:argue
 
Originally posted by Newport Viper

Scottwax how many cars have you now done with one bottle of $ 14 NXT?
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Past 20 and still have at least 1/3rd of a bottle left. Kind of hard to tell exactly because of the shape, but I keep track of what I use on every car (since I am monitoring several different combinations) and...hang on while I get an exact number...25 of my customer's cars and twice on my own. Looks like I will get about 35 applications per bottle at this pace. Pretty economical if you ask me.



I've resigned myself to the fact that because NXT is an off the shelf product, there are those who will not accept it as an "Autopian" level product.
 
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