No clearcoat

Chang

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I have a 91 MR2 with 14 year old super red paint with no clearcoat I was wondering if their was any special way I should go about polishing and waxing it because it has no clearcoat, all the writeups i have found deal with clear coated cars. It seems that eveyrthing I do seems to rub off paint weather it be polishing, or waxing. And for some reason when i washed the car about 2 days after polishing and waxing the oxidation came back any ideas?



thanks,

Chris



p.s. I'm a extreme newbie at detailing
 
I had a red car that did the same thing you're talking about a few years ago. I wish I had known then, what I know now, because I could have made it look very good. Since you're new, I'm going to assume that you're doing everything by hand. The paint that is coming off the car is oxidized paint. It will do that. What you are going to have to do in your situation is basically remove all of the bad (oxidized) paint until you see good paint. By hand, it will take a long time.



Some people here think that a rotary polisher is a tool for people who are experienced using orbitals. I don't agree. I hadn't used an orbital in over ten years when I bought my rotary. It's not practice you need, it's good sense and judgement. Buy cheap rotary, and some good pads. Follow the guidelines on this site for various products to use and technique. As a newbie, keep your speed down, and keep the polisher moving and you shouldn't have any issues. Clearcoat or not, all cars experience oxidation. You're probably always going to see some degree of red on your towels when you clean and polish your car. That's just how it goes.
 
I have an '85 Victory Red Toyota pick-up and when I got it a couple years ago it was in similar condition. To remove the oxidation you should try using a chemical cleaner such as AIO from Klasse. A similar product that is available at a local auto parts store would be Meguiar's Colorx. Both products will chemically remove the oxidation from the paint. The next step is to properly seal the paint, there are many sealants available and if you want to stay with locally available products NXT would be a good choice.
 
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It took me a long time to do it.......
 
Project "2" said:
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It took me a long time to do it.......



Just curious, how did you do it? How long did it take exactly? I have a car in similar shape and was giving up hope of the paint ever looking good again. Any help would be appreciated.
 
Beautiful work on that MR2 above! Can you go into a few details on your products / process? I'm looking at buying an mr2, and almost all of them are oxidized... I'm thinking of buying one anyway and just hoping the oxidation can be removed as well as the pictures posted
 
Oxidation is easier to correct than swirls and scratches imo.

It just takes a bit of work with the right products and technique.

You don't really need a PC or rotary either, but it'll be a bit of work by hand.
 
Clean and clay the surface first.

3m rubbering compound with yellow pad on 3.

Swirl remover with white pad

Glaze with Finishing pad.

Wipe each step with microfiber towels.

Wash it again and wax it.

Volla, you got yourself an eye candy.
 
Considering you clayed your car first, did you encounter a lot of buildup in your clay? Some people like to go straight to a polish and PC right after their wash. Seems like it would be a waste of clay. :nixweiss
 
Denzil said:
Considering you clayed your car first, did you encounter a lot of buildup in your clay? Some people like to go straight to a polish and PC right after their wash. Seems like it would be a waste of clay. :nixweiss

Not really. I only caught a bit since i wash my car regularly.

It didn't take a long time. Do a plastic bag test to help you to decide whether you need to do it.

edit: lol, something must got into me.
 
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