CorruptedSanity
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I bought a new blac Nissan Patrol. I asked the dealer not to wash it. They still did.
I received it with minor swirl marks all over.
Took it to a competent dealer who detailed it.
We washed the the car, clayed it, washed it again. Dried it.
He then used 3m Perfect it II or similar with a very mild pad to compound it.
Albeit using a very mild pad, he managed to take off 90% of the swirl marks.
Then he applied the first of 5 coats of z5. He mixed an ounce or two (the correct amount) and added 4-5 drops of zfx. Shook it, then let it sit for a few minutes.
Problem is it never cured. Neither of the five z5 coats nor any of the 3 subsequent z2 coats.
He applied the first coat of z5 by machine. Only the first coat by machine. All remaining 7 were by hand.
It never dried. We did a finger swipe at 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hours. It never swiped dry.
We decided to buff it off anyways.
Applied z8.
Applied second coat of z5 but by hand this time.
Same as above. Never dried.
Buffed off, applied z8.
Applied third coat of z5 of the day. 3 hours later, still smudgy.
Next day, we made sure he used a tiny amount on the panel. Same as the zaino guy who does a product demo on YouTube on that black Ferrari.
Same as yesterday.
4th coat of z5 never dried. So 2 hours later we buffed if off. Applied z8.
This went in for the fifth z5 coat, first z2 coat (third zaino application of the day).
Third day, applied 2 coats of z2.
Same as above.
Anyways. I think nothing much of it. And leave.
Next day, at home, my car was a bit dusty. So I applied z8 and took off the dust.
Then the third day till the 8th day I didn't wash it. It wasn't that dirty. A bit dusty. But mornings were Dewey.
I'd wake up and see a sheet of water on the car. I don't know whether you call it dew or humidity. But the car was wet.
Thought nothing of it because I had 8 coats of zaino on it. Or so I thought.
Today, the 9th I took it back to the detailer to have it washed.
He uses a high pressure washer too wash it then wipe of excess water with a chamois. Then uses a blower to completely dry it.
This is where I got worrie. The car didn't bead!
See the picture: terrible streaking
The hood had bad water spots on it. From the days it had dew on it in the morning and got dusty.
I ran the back of my hand across the hood after the wash. It felt gritty. Clearly the dust/sand (I live in the middle east) had penetrated as if there was no polish.
The paint felt soft generally because of the compounding but the had areas n th hood that were clearly rough.
The best part is the detailed is genuinely interested in re-doing the whole process where necessary.
What went wrong?
Why didn't the zaino ever cure? We used zfx as instructed.
I cannot fathom why it didn't dry.
Like I said. Temps were cool at around 77 Fahrenheit. No rain. Clear skies. Wasnt humid.
I received it with minor swirl marks all over.
Took it to a competent dealer who detailed it.
We washed the the car, clayed it, washed it again. Dried it.
He then used 3m Perfect it II or similar with a very mild pad to compound it.
Albeit using a very mild pad, he managed to take off 90% of the swirl marks.
Then he applied the first of 5 coats of z5. He mixed an ounce or two (the correct amount) and added 4-5 drops of zfx. Shook it, then let it sit for a few minutes.
Problem is it never cured. Neither of the five z5 coats nor any of the 3 subsequent z2 coats.
He applied the first coat of z5 by machine. Only the first coat by machine. All remaining 7 were by hand.
It never dried. We did a finger swipe at 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hours. It never swiped dry.
We decided to buff it off anyways.
Applied z8.
Applied second coat of z5 but by hand this time.
Same as above. Never dried.
Buffed off, applied z8.
Applied third coat of z5 of the day. 3 hours later, still smudgy.
Next day, we made sure he used a tiny amount on the panel. Same as the zaino guy who does a product demo on YouTube on that black Ferrari.
Same as yesterday.
4th coat of z5 never dried. So 2 hours later we buffed if off. Applied z8.
This went in for the fifth z5 coat, first z2 coat (third zaino application of the day).
Third day, applied 2 coats of z2.
Same as above.
Anyways. I think nothing much of it. And leave.
Next day, at home, my car was a bit dusty. So I applied z8 and took off the dust.
Then the third day till the 8th day I didn't wash it. It wasn't that dirty. A bit dusty. But mornings were Dewey.
I'd wake up and see a sheet of water on the car. I don't know whether you call it dew or humidity. But the car was wet.
Thought nothing of it because I had 8 coats of zaino on it. Or so I thought.
Today, the 9th I took it back to the detailer to have it washed.
He uses a high pressure washer too wash it then wipe of excess water with a chamois. Then uses a blower to completely dry it.
This is where I got worrie. The car didn't bead!
See the picture: terrible streaking
The hood had bad water spots on it. From the days it had dew on it in the morning and got dusty.
I ran the back of my hand across the hood after the wash. It felt gritty. Clearly the dust/sand (I live in the middle east) had penetrated as if there was no polish.
The paint felt soft generally because of the compounding but the had areas n th hood that were clearly rough.
The best part is the detailed is genuinely interested in re-doing the whole process where necessary.
What went wrong?
Why didn't the zaino ever cure? We used zfx as instructed.
I cannot fathom why it didn't dry.
Like I said. Temps were cool at around 77 Fahrenheit. No rain. Clear skies. Wasnt humid.
:nono about all those repeated attempts to apply Z when it was clearly not working properly :think: IMO that "detailer" coulda/woulda/shoulda sorted things out immediately after the first application evidenced issues.