Newbie to detailing need assistance.

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Platinum321

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Hi all I am in MA and am new to detailing. I own a second hand Genesis Coupe that is Bathurst Black. Had 17000 miles when purchased. I would like to make sure I get the right stuff to bring it to showroom condition. I was thinking of purchasing a machine polish kit of some description with polish et. Have been thinking of the Adams kits like the junkmans. But after research not sure what the right decision really is. Soooo I will be looking for help in making my decision/decisions on a kit or assembly of a kit. All input welcome. Yes it has swirls and imperfections. Even some rock chips in front. But the car is still very very nice.

Thanks in advance for all help and forewarnings. :)
 
I would go with the best deal on a Porter Cable and Lake Country pads.
Don't get a rotary in the hands of inexperienced it is very destructive.

The PC is very safe you almost have to try to due damage with it.
 
black bart said:
I would go with the best deal on a Porter Cable and Lake Country pads.
Don't get a rotary in the hands of inexperienced it is very destructive.

The PC is very safe you almost have to try to due damage with it.
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+1 on this!
Only get a DA (orbital) no matter what you do and move up to a rotary in time or you may feel like you have no need to step it up. Also not to discourage you but keep in mind if the car is you DD you will drive yourself completely crazy keeping it or getting it into showroom condition. Not to say you can make it look really really good but just keep tha in mind.
 
I'm a big Adams Fan myself but, have started researching other product lines because of the cost of their products. The junkman kit may seem to be the way to go to get EVERYTHING in one place but if you can be patient do the research and look at other products you may save some money. There are many good products out there. You just have to find what works for you and use it. I think the perfect product product is the Holy Grail of detailer's everywhere. You also need to remember that guys that detail for a living have a different perspective sometimes on the "perfect product" versus the guys like you and I who just do our own car and want to hear, "Damn That's Shiny", comment from others.

That being said you have a PM.
 
If you go to Autogeek.net, you have a lot more options on polishes with kits. Adam's only sells one. Autogeek provides multiple choices.

I would recommend:

PC7424XP, Meguiars polishes (M105/M205), LC pads (orange, white, black). I prefer flat type and if AG only has CCS in the kits you can ask for them to sub for you. I would get a min of 3 of each color.

Extras like pad cleaners, pad conditioners, etc. are not really a must but often get bundled.
 
One advantage to the Adam's is they make it simpler for someone new to working with a polisher.
For correction use the orange stuff (Swirl and Haze Remover) on the orange pad, and use the white stuff (Fine Machine Polish) on the white pad. If you are using the sealant (Machine Super Wax) use the black pad. After you have become more familiar with the process, you can mix and match the products and pads. If you decide to try other pads you already have a 6" backing plate or try other polishes you already have the pads.
 
Besides Autogeek what other sites would one recommend to see a vast host of products like Autogeek. I have seen the Junkmans tutorials and I have to say he is pretty convincing. I have found parts elsewhere like bucket guard for less than Adams. So I see how one could save money here and there. I am not so much into saving the money "if" the product is worth it. I see there are "cheaper" products out there than say Adams Swirl and Polish but I also see there are more expensive products. I just want one that does a great job if used properly. With all the products out there I will continue research and listening to all input. I work at a dealership and will have to visit our recon department to see what they are using. One feller there told me he loves the 3m stuff but says it is pricey.
 
Platinum321 said:
Besides Autogeek what other sites would one recommend to see a vast host of products like Autogeek. I have seen the Junkmans tutorials and I have to say he is pretty convincing. I have found parts elsewhere like bucket guard for less than Adams. So I see how one could save money here and there. I am not so much into saving the money "if" the product is worth it. I see there are "cheaper" products out there than say Adams Swirl and Polish but I also see there are more expensive products. I just want one that does a great job if used properly. With all the products out there I will continue research and listening to all input. I work at a dealership and will have to visit our recon department to see what they are using. One feller there told me he loves the 3m stuff but says it is pricey.
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Your post is typical of a person new to detailing, They always want to know what product is best.

You will get a bunch of different products recommended as there go to product and you will be more confused than you are now.

Different people look for different things in a product some want durability some like the looks of wax over a sealant and some buy the better priced product.

Some park on the street 24/7 while others park in a garage and rarely take it out.
This will effect their choice of products so the only way for you to know what you want is to try them and find what YOU LIKE not what someone else likes.

AG has one of the biggest selections of quality products as you will find in one place.

The thing that makes a vehicle look great is the person doing the detail NOT THE PRODUCT USED.

I took my car to a car show with a LSP on it that cost nearly $100.00 and on part of it I had a LSP that cost less than 10 bucks and no one knew the difference.

I can't think of any product that is hyped more than detailing products but the truth is nearly all of them will do a decent job once you learn how to use them.
A newbie is always looking for a magic bullet but it don't exist but in time you will find what best suits your needs.
 
Well said Bart.
I've been looking for the Magic bullet myself or wait Maybe not the magic bullet but a way to cull the duds from the contenders.
And yes longevity price and ease of use all play a part in the equation.
As has been said before many detail products ate like BBQ sauce. Most have the same base ingredients but its the final spice or additive that separates one from the other.
Research the technique , try a product if it gives you the results you want use it. If not, keep notes and share, then move on to the next prospective product. It ain't rocket science and most products work well or they get pulled from the market.
 
black bart said:
Your post is typical of a person new to detailing, They always want to know what product is best.

AG has one of the biggest selections of quality products as you will find in one place.

The thing that makes a vehicle look great is the person doing the detail NOT THE PRODUCT USED.

I can't think of any product that is hyped more than detailing products but the truth is nearly all of them will do a decent job once you learn how to use them.
A newbie is always looking for a magic bullet but it don't exist but in time you will find what best suits your needs.
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:bigups I could not have said it better:bigups
 
Nice job that is the same as mine essentially. Minus the crap that one had on it. Dern nice job you did on that bugger! Thank you for the advice. You may be my go-to guy knowing you had an intimate relationship with the paint.

Autogeek said:
Having worked with black Genesis paint before, I can tell you it is not easy to polish by any means. It's up there with C5/C6 Corvette and Ceramiclear paint in terms of hardness, so you'll definitely want to go with the 105/205 kit that Bunky suggested.

Here's what 105/205/Fuzion did on the black Genesis I detailed:

2010 black Hyundai Genesis - swirled, etched and oxidized! - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum
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Platinum321 said:
Nice job that is the same as mine essentially. Minus the crap that one had on it. Dern nice job you did on that bugger! Thank you for the advice. You may be my go-to guy knowing you had an intimate relationship with the paint.
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Looked at the kit you suggested unfortunately it does not come with the cyan pads that you used.
 
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