newb questions....

JaredPointer said:
I disgaree with your advice - it looks like you copied and pasted some bad advice from a tuner forum or something.
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I agree with your disagreement. Any advice that suggests against using clay as part of proper prep work is very poor advice. There are many things wrong with that list, but it lost all credibility when you suggested that one not use clay as part of proper prep work.

I guess that new cars are protected by some sort of shield while they are being transported from the factory to the dealership, eh? They don't call it 'rail dust' for nothin you know. I suppose that they are all kept under cover when they are on the lot at the dealership, right? No acid rain or industrial fallout could possibly affect a new car. Why clay them? What could possibly be in the paint when they are 100% wrapped in plastic from the time the paint is dry until you unwrap it in your garage on day one of ownership?
 
" Ingredients: White Carnauba Sap/Wax, Montan Evergreen Oil, Sunflower Oil, Cantaloupe Oil, Coconut Oil, Honeydew Extract, Propolis (derived from Bees), Cetyl Esters, Cetyl Cocoamide (derived from coconut oil)."

mmmmmm.........sounds tasty (except for the carnauba)

"You’ll never have to buy wax again because the Zymol Vintage Glaze includes lifetime refills at no charge"


Gee....that's awfully nice of them....looks like you are locked in to their product.....:rofl
 
pogo123 said:
I also disagree with some of this process, but he did say to use clay in step #5 (after the dawn wash).
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It was his initial advice not to use clay on a new car that I was refering to. I'm glad it is in his list, but the process of wash, clay, polish, protect is a process for all cars and not just the used ones.
 
Jngrbrdman said:
I guess that new cars are protected by some sort of shield while they are being transported from the factory to the dealership, eh? They don't call it 'rail dust' for nothin you know. I suppose that they are all kept under cover when they are on the lot at the dealership, right? No acid rain or industrial fallout could possibly affect a new car. Why clay them? What could possibly be in the paint when they are 100% wrapped in plastic from the time the paint is dry until you unwrap it in your garage on day one of ownership?
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In fact, since I am into detailing I have started to wonder about that:
I mean a car could sit on the lot for several months and especially out here they get sandblasted and sunbaked. So what does a big dealership do if they have 50 or 70 new cars on the lot? Wash, clay, polish, and seal them each one of them every 4 to 6 weeks? And if they don't, that car should have swirls from the wind and sand when the buyer drives it from the lot.
Is any detailer in this forum who is called up by a dealership to care for their cars when they don't sell for a long time???
 
nikro000 said:
In fact, since I am into detailing I have started to wonder about that:
I mean a car could sit on the lot for several months and especially out here they get sandblasted and sunbaked. So what does a big dealership do if they have 50 or 70 new cars on the lot? Wash, clay, polish, and seal them each one of them every 4 to 6 weeks?
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No, most don't. They have some guy come in about once every couple of weeks and powerwash them. Then they have a couple of their shop guys wash them at delivery. At least that's how it operates around here.

nikro000 said:
And if they don't, that car should have swirls from the wind and sand when the buyer drives it from the lot.
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Most every new car I see has marring / spiderwebbing on it when it is drove off the lot.
 
My new car is looking great lately only because I listened to the pros here and this is the order I followed:
1.wash .
2. claybar.
3.polish (WG polish enhancer)
4. seal(WG sealant)
5.wax .after 2 Coates of sealant(with Pinnacle Souveran liquid)
And I'm so glad I did the step#2 claybar.
 
distrbd said:
My new car is looking great lately only because I listened to the pros here and this is the order I followed:
1.wash .
2. claybar.
3.polish (WG polish enhancer)
4. seal(WG sealant)
5.wax .after 2 Coates of sealant(with Pinnacle Souveran liquid)
And I'm so glad I did the step#2 claybar.
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Clay is one of the most important steps in the paint prep area...a lot of people just don't understand it...That WG line is great I have to get some more of the sealant
 
In my experience with Wolfgang (I'm proudly on my tenth bottle of the stuff) I haven't seen any benefit to topping it with anything else. I've topped it with Souveran paste, souveran liquid, P21S, S100, Trade Secret, Nattys, paste glaze, Blitz, and probably three or four other waxes that I can't think of off the top of my head. In every case and on every color it seems that topping WG with anything else actually diminishes from the apperance. The best thing on top of WG is more WG. Three layers of that gives the results on the blue Subaru in my post at the beginning of this thread.

There seems to be an obsession about topping sealants with waxes. Somewhere along the line people must have got the impression that you have to top a sealant with a carnauba to get the best results. WG is proof that it isn't necessary to do that all the time.
 
Jngrbrdman said:
There seems to be an obsession about topping sealants with waxes. Somewhere along the line people must have got the impression that you have to top a sealant with a carnauba to get the best results. WG is proof that it isn't necessary to do that all the time.
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I don't doubt you for a second but Is it possible that because of the colour of my car being grey would make a difference because ever since I put the wax over the WG sealant ,it just looks a lot shinier.
I know when I used the sealant on a black car it looked amazing on its own.
Edit:
Never mind,I just read your post again and you say it doesn't make any difference what the paint colour is.
 
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