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hares1370 said:
Yeah, nothing really *wrong* with it, but I'm not a fan of the GG Machine Polishes. MP#3 is very mild stuff IME, doesn't really do much, if any, true correction.
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Yeah, nothing really *wrong* with it, but I'm not a fan of the GG Machine Polishes. MP#3 is very mild stuff IME, doesn't really do much, if any, true correction.
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hares1370 said:
Griot's polishing granules are engineered to break down under light pressure (diminishing) abrasives that get smaller and smaller as you use the polish.
They are numbered in accordance with their abrasive abilities- # 1 is a medium grade swirl remover for moderate to severe paint imperfections. #2 is a mild polish for light swirl and scratch removal. #3 is a very mild polish designed to remove light paint imperfections.
A compound is usually more abrasive than a polish and Groit's are light abrasives as opposed to compounds
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IME GG's MP#1 doesn't do much correction for how aggressive it feels. Like...it seems it oughta really be effective, but it never was for me. Same with MP#2. They *did* work a lot better by Cyclo than by PC though, so maybe they'd be OK with the current GG polisher or something else that does aggressive work.
But I'd much rather use something else instead anyhow. My bottles of MP (that's 1-3, at least two different generations of 'em all, never did try the MP#4) just sit on the shelf while I use other products.
I *did* find a good use for the MP#3 once- used it to correct an awfully soft fresh repaint (RM b/c, softest I've ever had, but later hardened up OK). It was perfect for that one job, but that was back in, oh...I forget...maybe 2003 or so, and IMO there are better options now.
I can imagine this talk of GG's MPs stems from the various package deals with a polisher, pads, and the products. I myself would just buy the polisher separately, which is what Accumulatorette *did* do when she bought me mine.
EDIT: But OTOH, for all I know GG has reformulated the MPs; maybe they're better now than they were in the past. They've redone 'em at least once before, so it's possible :nixweiss
But I'd much rather use something else instead anyhow. My bottles of MP (that's 1-3, at least two different generations of 'em all, never did try the MP#4) just sit on the shelf while I use other products.
I *did* find a good use for the MP#3 once- used it to correct an awfully soft fresh repaint (RM b/c, softest I've ever had, but later hardened up OK). It was perfect for that one job, but that was back in, oh...I forget...maybe 2003 or so, and IMO there are better options now.
I can imagine this talk of GG's MPs stems from the various package deals with a polisher, pads, and the products. I myself would just buy the polisher separately, which is what Accumulatorette *did* do when she bought me mine.
EDIT: But OTOH, for all I know GG has reformulated the MPs; maybe they're better now than they were in the past. They've redone 'em at least once before, so it's possible :nixweiss
I bought one of the GG kits, but only because it was $99 on Amazon. Clay and Speed Shine are useful. I have found the MP#3 very good at polishing our solid surface kitchen counter tops with the orange GG pad. Tried it on the car and it didn't do much. Using B&S 5.5" pads with UNO, HD Polish and Speed has worked out very well--beginner friendly and effective.
thanks everyone...i just got some #105 which i think would be pretty good for cleaning up the swirl marks on my jetta mk3. i was thinking of using the mp gg 3 to clean up after the #105. Also im going get some lake country pads too. I'm going to test out the pads that i have once i get my pads from lake country. which ones should i buy? i was going to get one of each so ill have a nice selection. also should i purchase some extra backing plates?
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You can also look into these HD pads. I actually prefer them to LC pads. 3D Car Care; Car Wash, Car Wax, Auto Detailing supplies, Car Polishers, Car Buffers & accessories store
Good to have yellow cutting (finishes as good as the orange pads, green polish/light cut and I use the black finishing pads. Maybe red for applying waxes and sealants.
If you need extra backing plates, it is good to have 1 at least 1 as backup like this one. �
Good to have yellow cutting (finishes as good as the orange pads, green polish/light cut and I use the black finishing pads. Maybe red for applying waxes and sealants.
If you need extra backing plates, it is good to have 1 at least 1 as backup like this one. �
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Thomas Dekany said:
Just to clarify, I'm sure Thomas is referring to the 3D/HD yellow cutting pad when he says that. I would *NOT* recommend the yellow *LC* cutting pad as IME it doesn't finish well enough to justity it's increased cut and other cutting pads (e.g., MF, PFW) are better in that regard.
And hey Thomas, if I'm wrong about that, call me out!
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hares1370 said:
OK, that should handle the aggressive work (at least if you use the right pad(s) it will). I dunno...I would *NOT* expect the GG MP#3 to be a sufficiently aggressive follow up to M105.
It *MIGHT* work if you did an intermediate step with M105 on a very gentle pad...others do stuff like that and are happy with the results, but for *me* it'd simply still be too big a jump (going from M105 to MP#3) no matter how I did it.
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hares1370 said:
IF, and that can be a big "if", you use the right ones they can work fine. And wool runs cooler than foam so they can be safer too.
I reached for some 4" wool pads a few times during my last big correction.
BUT...all-in-all I think you should just stick with MF cutting pads for the aggressive work.
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hares1370 said:
IF (again, maybe a big "if") those are the same as Cyclo brand pads, and they *do* show 'em on a Cyclo, not that *that* means much....then 4 of orange/green/black would be OK.
But I'd *STILL* want MF cutting pads for the serious correction. That's not gonna change
Accumulator said:IF (again, maybe a big "if") those are the same as Cyclo brand pads, and they *do* show 'em on a Cyclo, not that *that* means much....then 4 of orange/green/black would be OK.
But I'd *STILL* want MF cutting pads for the serious correction. That's not gonna change
i didnt get those i change my mind and got Lake Country Hydro-Tech 5 1/2
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hares1370 said:
The HydroTech pads should be fine, though IIRC some people find they don't always last too long. I've never tried them, but AFAIK the tangerine ones are similar to the Griot's pads that I like so much.
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hares1370 said:
Wonder if it'll come off OK at all? :think:
I'd try 3M Adhesive Remover. Find a way to hold a saturated rag on the glue for an extended dwell-time (maybe lean a 2x4 against the rag to hold it in place).