New Makita polisher

Bill D

Bill D

Hooked For Life
Heh, just as we were discussing the Cyclo and having one as well as a PC, I read about this Makita polisher:





http://www.autogeek.net/bo6040.html





Now I'm wondering if this polisher can solve the issue some non rotary users who want rotary results but are too terified to try one on their car (and can't get a piece of scrap to practice on) have.





I would really be surprised if this polisher can give the *exact same kind * of results a rotary will but I really wonder if it can come close, by that I mean, much better than a PC.



Does anyone have one of these? I assume they are fairly new? Any more information about it appreciated. Thanks.
 
Looks pretty cool, i have never seen one or used one. I use a makita rotary and love it. I also have a PC.



wondering what they mean by "random orbit with forced rotation" action (aggressive sanding and polishing)



I dont like they way that sounds, but then again i have not tried it yet to get any feedback. at 299.00 i don't think i will be getting one anytime soon.
 
I'm hoping the "aggressive sanding/polishing" description refers to its ability to polish sorta like a rotary :nixweiss
 
the new makita sounds like a great all in one tool. i cant wait to hear some unbiased reviews from a consumer stand point.
 
NY detailer said:
wondering what they mean by "random orbit with forced rotation" action (aggressive sanding and polishing)
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My understanding from Cvcalean's (sorry for the butchered spelling) review of it is that with the switch flipped, the pad no longer spins freely on its center, but is forced to rotate on its center along with forced in an orbit. While this is not a rotary as it rotates in two directions, it is not a random orbit. If all movements are forced, then there is nothing random about it.



It seems like your $300 buys more accessories if you get a Cyclo, plus you can use it on carpets and such, and I imagine it is much better balanced than the Makita. I didn't realize the Makita was that expensive.
 
Ah, now I wonder how this polisher compares to the Cyclo, as in which will produce better results.......
 
Here's an honest review from a Cyclo seller!



I am buying a Makita 9227 because I know that a rotary can do more than the Cyclo and much more than a PC. The rotary action, non vibrating, heats and levels paint. Much more can be corrected. This has been discussed lately on other forums with the nations leading experts..even they disagree to a point.

Although, the Cyclo can shampoo carpets (had a customer ask about the shampooing pads yesterday), the Makita is known as a very good polisher. I have seen them on Ebay for about 124 used and 168 new. Harbor Freight has them for the lowest price and free shipping.



If you have the money, both will not hurt. You always start out with the least abbrasive and work up from there. Gary in Chicago uses a Cyclo as do many other high-end detailers, but most of them will tell you they have a rotary in their arsenal for correcting oxidation, scratches, compounding scratches, etc.



I know some chemicals do contain fillers and most detailers have no idea that this is correct. I have a polish that I can use with my Cylco and when done you would swear that I removed every paint imperfection on the car. However, a few months later, you will see those spider webs and swirls again. If you don't know about your chemicals, then you don't really know if you removed imperfections, or filled them in....until later.



I think every detailer should have a rotary. Go to a local body shop and ask about "throw away" paint parts from jobs they have done. Take m' home and practice. I think you will like the results very much.



I hope this helps you with your decision.



Robert Regan
 
WCD, thanks for the info, however the Makita being disucssed in this thread is not the 9227, but the BO6040. The BO6040 appears to be a hybrid between the 9227 and a PC.



Thanks

Cory
 
Gotcha! After posting I thought about that price and wondered if I had the wrong one in mind. However, I'd still go for the 9227 anyway!



Thanks, Rob
 
Re: Rotary.



I have heard from LOTS of professionals and highly respected detailers and INSTRUCTORS about how they feared the rotary, until they tried it. And now they feel uncomfortable without it.



So, I'm going rotary, and not looking back. I have the Chicago Electric machine. It was $25. If I find it adequate, I got a bargain. If it's inadequate, I've wasted $25; hey, I've blown that on a round of drinks in a bar, or 1/2 of a jar of Souv Paste. Then I'll get the Makita or the DeWalt. But, no more PC only. I'm learning both tools.





Tom
 
Bill D- That Makita BO6040 *does* sound interesting, and I commend you on doing thorough research as you look to move beyond the PC.



One thing to consider is the "pleasure of use" factor. *I* just plain *enjoy* using the Cyclo. Some sorta-intangibles like build quality and finish, and balance, vibration, and other ergonomic issues, just work for me. Not saying the BO6040 wouldn't, though. Some people just *love* the ergonomics of a PC (and the BO6040 looks sorta similar), but *I* don't. Just a personal preference thing.



And FWIW, the rotary really isn't all *that* scary if you use common sense. Really. It doesn't rip out of your hands, tear off moldings, automatically inflict holograms, etc. etc. I'd wager that you'll eventually end up getting one...just wait and see ;)



I hadn't used a rotary in about 20 years. You "gotta practice on a beater" :nono, right? Well, when I got the S8 back from the bodyshop it had a pair of nasty scratches on the roof. After calling the shop about it and venting, and finding that a RO wouldn't remove said scratches, I got out the (brand new) Makita. As it was a "spot repair", I fitted a 4" plate and experimented with pads/polishes (1Z) until I'd removed the scratches. Followed up with the PC, again, with a 4" pad. No problems at all. You're wise to be concerned with how "idiot-proof" a rotary is, but I'll posit that you're not an idiot ;)



I guess I'm sorta old-fashioned about "tool-for-the-job" issues. I like having the PC/Cyclo/rotary instead of a multi-purpose/mode polisher, just as I'd rather use a bunch of fixed-size wrenches instead of a crescent wrench. But I can sure understand how someone else would go the other way. And everyone should try to find the tool(s) that *they* like using.



Guess you have some more cogitatin' to do!
 
Accumulator said:
, but I'll posit that you're not an idiot ;)
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:) Thank Accumulator, I needed to hear that today especially given these computer problems I've been having, I hope I got them resolved



Like Mosca did, I think I may gamble a few bucks and get a "starter rotary" and give it a shot some time. I could try online as I believe the Vector rotary sold in Pep Boys is even cheaper from Harbor Freight.





Ha ha, some day down the road I may just have 'em all and I'll have some justification for buying each machine I did :o ;)
 
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