Need SERIOUS help with bugs!

I have so many applications of Souveran meguiars ulw that it must be close to an inch thick by now and I wash my car almost 2 times a week nothing has a chance to stick
 
Don- Heh heh, with the way Souveran (doesn`t ;) ) last for me you *must* have an inch of it on there to work so well! Now if those customers would just get on the ball....
 
Don said:
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Turns out these things are `Mayflies` or `Canadian Soldiers.` And the closer you get to Lake Erie, the more prevalent they get.
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Yep, know your pain. We have lake flies that are very similar from Lake Winnebago and bay flies from Green Bay (West-central Lake Michigan). This little critter`s larva is what the sturgeon that live in these waters eat and thrive on. This is THE time of the year when they hatch and if you happen to drive into a hatch swarm (usually late evening) they can decimate a vehicle and cause accidents because they cover the windshield upon impact and make the road slippery when they are run over (really!)
My wife had that unfortunate experience of running into a hatch coming back from southern Door County next to Green Bay about 7 years ago at about sunset this time of year. She had to stop twice to clean off the windshield so she could see out. I should have taken pictures!. It was a light blue Nissan Maxima and when I saw it the next morning, it was black on the hood, front end, and half the roof!!! Yes, I cleaned it off with a bug pad and lots of elbow grease. Luckily, those little buggers (pun intended!) came off easily as it was the next day. If you leave them bake on in the summer sun, (as many drivers do), that`s a different story.
The WORST bugs to get off are grasshoppers. They will etch your paint, literally, if you leave them on for any length of time. I feel sorry for those of you in the Central and Upper Plains who have to encounter those many big bug splats!!
 
Don said:
I have so many applications of Souveran meguiars ulw that it must be close to an inch thick by now and I wash my car almost 2 times a week nothing has a chance to stick
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Megs Ultimate Liquid Wax is what goes on the front of the vehicles in my house....doesn`t keep everything from sticking, but makes removal much easier
 
If it`s really bad, I soak a beach towel in warm/hot water. Then spray the front/bug invested area with your favorite bug remover (I use P21s Auto Wash) and let then drape the front of the car with the moisten towel. Let it dwell for 10-15 minutes then use a bug sponge and gentle agitate. Should do the trick - presoaking is key!
 
briarpatch said:
Megs Ultimate Liquid Wax is what goes on the front of the vehicles in my house....doesn`t keep everything from sticking, but makes removal much easier
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I tried typing Souveran AND Megs Ult Liquid Wax, and yes it does make things stick less drastically to the paint.
 
Yet another vote for diluted PB Bug Squash.

For all the customers who bring you cars who expect Miracles? NOT. Can you convince your customers to add some form of protection to their paint, so that the nasty/etching-bug-guts won`t actually initially damage the factory paint? Modern paint skins seem more akin to driving less than 20 miles to WallyWorld, with the least bit of concern for the driver/purchaser?

Been through May Flies, as well as Love Bugs, BIG grasshoppers (Horse Lubbers), etc. My cars have always spent life on the "real road" (throughout Canader/USA). Why, drive a car, if it can only be a Garage Queen? Surface protection certainly does help against dissolving/removing these nasty tiny varmints (only second to bird poo?). My rides tend to be protected inside a garage almost daily, but that doesn`t mean that they don`t forge into nasty tiny critters who love to eat away modern (and not-so-modern) automotive paint? Damn those teeny-tiny bugs?

Hasn`t been under 106 in a week here (106-110), so please forgive my rants. My "recent/new-ride" still plastered from bugs a few days ago.

Good surface prep, sealing, in combo with PB`s? Great product.
 
I`ve never felt the need to buy a bug remover spray. Diluted liquid fabric softener and a MF towel, or a wet fabric softener sheet works too well. I would love to hear how well this method works for cars with a more severe case of bugs than I usually have. Where I live, bugs aren`t too bad.
 
If anybody here *who is LSPing with FK1000P* is experiencing issues with bugs etching/adhering I`d like to hear about it. I have no idea whether my (positive) experiences with it in this regard are anomalous or not.
 
EXPDetailing said:
I`ve never felt the need to buy a bug remover spray. Diluted liquid fabric softener and a MF towel, or a wet fabric softener sheet works too well. I would love to hear how well this method works for cars with a more severe case of bugs than I usually have. Where I live, bugs aren`t too bad.
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What dilution of Fabric Softener/Water do you use?
 
Might even need to use full strength on PB Bugsquash. I know I had to after noticing it was barely doing anything to a truck I was working on with excessive bugs caked on it.
 
Migue said:
Might even need to use full strength on PB Bugsquash. I know I had to after noticing it was barely doing anything to a truck I was working on with excessive bugs caked on it.
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I planned on trying it full-strength at first anyway. The first use is going to be on a black `16 Honda Civic that I detailed last Saturday and received some disappointed feedback that I couldn`t get all the bugs off the front end (she liked the quality of the rest of the detail though) so I told her I would rewash the car, de-bug it completely and put a second coat of sealant on the leading edges to help prevent it from occurring again.

I`m ALSO going to try and teach her the basics of washing bugs off frequently and if nothing else, how regular waxing of the vulnerable areas will prevent such build up in the future.
 
7:1, but use a MF that you don`t care about because fabric softener repels water and makes the towel un-absorbent. Also, you may want to not wash it in your machine.
 
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My brother uses wet fabric softener sheets (bounce) on the front of his 5th wheel camper with great results. The front of camper make great bug catchers!
 
Don said:
I planned on trying it full-strength at first anyway. The first use is going to be on a black `16 Honda Civic that I detailed last Saturday and received some disappointed feedback that I couldn`t get all the bugs off the front end (she liked the quality of the rest of the detail though) so I told her I would rewash the car, de-bug it completely and put a second coat of sealant on the leading edges to help prevent it from occurring again.

I`m ALSO going to try and teach her the basics of washing bugs off frequently and if nothing else, how regular waxing of the vulnerable areas will prevent such build up in the future.
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I would also use it full strength for commercial detailing to save time, especially if you are going to polish or do a sealant afterwards ... .. you might want to offer your clients a sample bottle and Mesh Bug towel to maintain their vehicles between full details ...

btw it is available in 5 gallon and larger sizes too :)
 
Poorboy said:
I would also use it full strength for commercial detailing to save time.

btw it is available in 5 gallon and larger sizes too :)
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Good idea to save time and I`ve been thinking of getting the bigger than a gal sizes but haven`t had the gumption to do it yet but probably will next Time I order as I got a gal in route already from acc for the 3-4th time lol


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Poorboy said:
I would also use it full strength for commercial detailing to save time, especially if you are going to polish or do a sealant afterwards ... .. you might want to offer your clients a sample bottle and Mesh Bug towel to maintain their vehicles between full details ...

btw it is available in 5 gallon and larger sizes too :)
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I saw the 5 gallon sizes but I`m not a full time production detailer just a shade tree guy so 5 gallons is a bit much. the idea of giving her a sample and a sponge is a good one as long as I teach her what to do. I was thinking of giving her a crash course on applying a good cleaner wax to the leading surfaces to minimize the dried innards issue.
 
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