Need QD Advice Please

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kevmo327

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This weekend I will be shooting a TV commercial for one of my clients and as part of it I will be using a fully restored 63 T Bird. I am not the least bit concerd about the car as I have an "A" list crew and the guy rigging the car has done this for 30 years...What I do need is some adive on some QD fro removing finger prints, smudges and making the paint really pop.
 
I think any QD will quickly remove fingerprints and smudges. I know Showtime specifically says it contains shine fortifiers, and I'm guessing the other QDs do as well.
 
Yeah, any QD that "leaves something behind" should work well. I would *not* use Meg's #34, for instance, for this one, but rather something compatible with your LSP that will leave a little sealant/wax on the finish. That'll give you the added "pop" you're after.
 
kevmo327 said:
This weekend I will be shooting a TV commercial for one of my clients and as part of it I will be using a fully restored 63 T Bird. I am not the least bit concerd about the car as I have an "A" list crew and the guy rigging the car has done this for 30 years...What I do need is some adive on some QD fro removing finger prints, smudges and making the paint really pop.
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I'll tell you, people will recommend a variety of QD's, but honestly, Meguiar's Quick Detail (consumer) and #34 (Pro) work very well for me. They seem to respond best with the Meguiar's ultimate towel - that is - they are very absorbent and I do not need to go over a QD'd spot 3-4 times to remove it. Two passes and its free of dust, fingerprints, streaks, etc.



I did notice there's one side of the Meguiar's Towel that is more plush than another side - great for absorbtion.
 
Tropi-Care QD if you're using anything except Klasse, Sonus Glanz Spritz if you're using Klasse.



For something you can just walk into a store and buy, the Mother's QD is pretty good, too.
 
Accumulator said:
Yeah, any QD that "leaves something behind" should work well. I would *not* use Meg's #34, for instance, for this one, but rather something compatible with your LSP that will leave a little sealant/wax on the finish. That'll give you the added "pop" you're after.
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Wondering why you would not use #34? I love that stuff and believe it can be used on any LSP.
 
John Styrnol said:
Wondering why you would not use #34? I love that stuff and believe it can be used on any LSP.
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I think #34 reduces the life of the lsp. I think the product works great, but I'd rather use something else that doesn't take away from the lsp. I'm currently using Wipe n Shine and Showtime and prefer them because of this.
 
Interspy24 said:
I think #34 reduces the life of the lsp.
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In want way? Does it wipe some of it off? Never heard of a QD doing anything like that before. Are there others in the same boat? Very interesting.
 
I think Accumulator might be getting at the fact that #34 has no silicone/wax in it and as a result won't spruce up your shine rather its intent is to remove light surface, dust, debris, etc.
 
From the Meguiars website:



Its special high-lubricity formula actually encapsulates dust particles and enhances deep lustre-without using water. In just minutes, you'll have a shimmering gloss that will turn heads.



As far as I can see it leaves my X pretty shiny. I still do not understand, what is #34 doing to my LSP.
 
I don't think #34 is going to do much bad to your wax. #34 has no silicones (bodyshop safe) so it won't add gloss like some others might. Nor does it contain carnauba, so it can be used on either a sealant or wax without affecting "bonding" of future coats. The back of the bottle does say that it has "Optical Brighteners for a high gloss shine" though.

As well, it says: "High lubricity formula removes dust, fingerprints, contaminants and fine scratches."

It isn't designed to add to the longevity of your LSP (like a booster wax) or add gloss as some other QD's might. For these reasons some people may not want to choose this particular QD for "showcars." However, if the car is properly prepared, #34 may indeed work well enough for removing smudges and fingerprints.
 
John Styrnol said:
From the Meguiars website:



Its special high-lubricity formula actually encapsulates dust particles and enhances deep lustre-without using water. In just minutes, you'll have a shimmering gloss that will turn heads.



As far as I can see it leaves my X pretty shiny. I still do not understand, what is #34 doing to my LSP.
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#34 is a great product and I like the results that it gives me. It's easy to use, doesn't streak, and leaves a nice finish...



However, maybe something was wrong with my testing, but since I qd almost every other day, I noticed the slickness and the beading characteristics of pupp to diminish much faster when using #34. I say this because it doesn't happen when using showtime or wipe n shine.



If I'm not mistaken, I also remember reading this somewhere. I believe either accumulator or justadumbarchitect posted about this.
 
Yeah, BlackCarAddict got it....In this case the QD is supposed to not just keep the car clean, but also to actually *enhance* the appearance. So I'd use something with wax/sealant/whatever in it.



I really like #34, go through gallons of the stuff. But for this one, I'd use a QD that adds some LSP-like stuff. Of the 6-8 I have on hand, I'd probably go with Clearkote's Quik Shine as a no-brainer choice since it works well on everything but you could always match the QD to the LSP (Crystal Mist, Sonus, lots of choices).



Yeah, I'm the guy who posted about #34 compromising the LSP. This happened when the LSP was almost shot anyhow, it seemed the #34 finished it off and I later decided that frequent use of #34 hastened its demise. I can't even remember which LSP I noticed this on...if memory serves it was Souveran on a white '87 VW, but it was a long time ago, at least a dozen years.



I got into a big "discussion" with Mike Phillips and a Meg's chemist over this...does #34 contain "alcohol"? Well no, technically the stuff in it is chemically similar/related to, but different from, "alcohol". OK...but to be honest, I was just a little :rolleyes about the hair-splitting definitions. But anyhow, if you don't have problems with #34 (apparently I'm not the only one who does) then keep using it and don't worry about my experiences with it.



I use #34 to remove polish/compound residues every time I polish, and to wipe down a car that may have gathered dust in the garage during multi-day details. I also use it for waterless cleaning in the garage and around the house. The only time I use any other QD is *very occasionally*, after washing, as a LSP-booster. For this, *for me*, other QDs fit the bill better than #34.
 
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