Need help with new car plan

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I haven't detailing in a while, because my previous car was pretty messed up from some rock damage, etc. Now I have a new car and want to start fresh on it.



1. Wash it - I have ONR for this

2. Clay it - I am leaning towards HD Nano Prep. I know there is also Speedy Surface Prep and Nano Surface but they don't seem to be any cheaper (at least the first places I've seen)

3. Wash it again

4. Use prewax cleaner. I was thinking of either HD Polish or HD Speed - what do you think?

5. I already have Poxy. I can use that, but I keep hearing good things about HD Nitro Seal so I thought I might try that



Any opinions or advice?



EDIT: The new car is a Ford Explorer.
 
Sounds like a solid plan. You could consider using an ABC system or at least an Iron remover.
 
phareous said:
I haven't detailing in a while, because my previous car was pretty messed up from some rock damage, etc. Now I have a new car and want to start fresh on it.



1. Wash it - I have ONR for this

2. Clay it - I am leaning towards HD Nano Prep. I know there is also Speedy Surface Prep and Nano Surface but they don't seem to be any cheaper (at least the first places I've seen)

3. Wash it again

4. Use prewax cleaner. I was thinking of either HD Polish or HD Speed - what do you think?

5. I already have Poxy. I can use that, but I keep hearing good things about HD Nitro Seal so I thought I might try that



Any opinions or advice?



EDIT: The new car is a Ford Explorer.
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Sounds good! I would have a traditional wash on hand as well and of course, plenty of quality microfibers.



As far as a prewax cleaner, I haven't observed any cleaning power from HD SPEED [it would make a great polish though]. I would look into Poli-seal or another paint cleaner/cleanser.
 
OK I've done a little revision...how about this?



1. Wash - ONR

2. Decon - Iron X, wash

3. Clay - HD Nano Prep, wash

4. Polish - HD Uno

?? should I follow up with HD Speed or HD Polish at this point?

5. HD Nitro (or I might end up using Poxy since I already have it)
 
Looks good, definately get the NPT, or SA's Speedy towel...which ever, I just tried it out for the first time yesterday and there's absolutely no going back to clay! It's clay on crack, pcp, bath salts...you name it! j/k...lol! Plus it will last you a lot longer then clay, some folks are getting on upwards of 60-90 cars out of one towel!

Uno may marr since it's a compound, are you doing this by hand or machine? if your paint only has minor defects I'd stick to Polish or SPEED the only difference with the two is that SPEED is a Polish/Poxy AIO.
 
I have a PC orbital but I'm just as happy doing things by hand so either way. My main issue with the PC is trying to remember what pad is for what, etc. as I only use the polishing every so often (I just have one car and don't really do it for anyone else). So it sounds like I can just forgo Uno and HD Polish and just use Speed, followed by Nitro (or Poxy)
 
Pads are confusing, no doubt as there's a ton of them out on the market by a mess load of different brands! Even more so if one only does their car(s) and that's it. I don't think you would get much results doing Uno by hand at least compared to a machine......unless you're in excellent and have the endurance of a gladiator! Then again someone usually proves me wrong!



You look pretty squared away on your choices, good luck with your new ride and don't forget to post some pics on what you were able to achieve!
 
Both SPEED and POLISH will do a great job of cleaning the paint. Your plan looks great. Be sure to post some pictures after the detail. I like the look of the new Explorers.



phareous said:
I haven't detailing in a while, because my previous car was pretty messed up from some rock damage, etc. Now I have a new car and want to start fresh on it.



1. Wash it - I have ONR for this

2. Clay it - I am leaning towards HD Nano Prep. I know there is also Speedy Surface Prep and Nano Surface but they don't seem to be any cheaper (at least the first places I've seen)

3. Wash it again

4. Use prewax cleaner. I was thinking of either HD Polish or HD Speed - what do you think?

5. I already have Poxy. I can use that, but I keep hearing good things about HD Nitro Seal so I thought I might try that



Any opinions or advice?



EDIT: The new car is a Ford Explorer.
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Ok I'm putting in the order now. I'm still not sure if I need Uno or not. I obviously have some swirl marks from the dealer... but I don't know if Speed is strong enough to take those out, or if I need to use Uno.
 
This is just my opinion so take it for what it's worth. You stated the vehicle is a bran new Explorer. The Paint should already be in prestine condition unless the dealer somehow screwed it up. So with that thinking there really shouldn't be any need for polishes or cleaners with the exception of a good Claying followed by your LSP.



Then again with some of us all that extra work is a labor of love....:lol1:
 
May I suggest that you take some time and look at some of the new car prep C&Bs? You will see that most new cars need a lot more than clay and LSP. I will point this out again, that after claying one "should" always polish the paint.



fordf150 said:
This is just my opinion so take it for what it's worth. You stated the vehicle is a bran new Explorer. The Paint should already be in prestine condition unless the dealer somehow screwed it up. So with that thinking there really shouldn't be any need for polishes or cleaners with the exception of a good Claying followed by your LSP.



Then again with some of us all that extra work is a labor of love....:lol1:
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Thomas Dekany said:
May I suggest that you take some time and look at some of the new car prep C&Bs? You will see that most new cars need a lot more than clay and LSP. I will point this out again, that after claying one "should" always polish the paint.
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Not sure what C&B stands for, but as I stated in a previous post unless the dealer has messed up the paint prior to your taking delivery than the paint should be in prestine condition from the factory. I've had many new vehicles that never needed more than a good wash, clay and LSP to look fantastic.



This is my new Ford (at the time) 10 days after I took delivery. Paint was flawless and all I did was a wash, clay and a 2 thin coats of Meguiar's #21. I seriously doubt a polish would have yielded much if any better results.



But... different strokes for different folks.



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Please don't take this the wrong way, but as a professional detailer, I can assure you (I have pretty many new car prep under my belt) that polishing will make a big (visible) difference on a brand new car.



I think I speak for most on this site when I say that we are all here to "master" the art of detailing. As far as the exterior is concerned that means a perfect swirl free finish.



Sadly, if and when you learn how to look at car paint and inspect it properly, you will realize that most new cars are actually in pretty bad shape. Some are more obvious than others naturally.



In your garage, turn all lights off and take a flash light to inspect your car's paint. If it is a metallic, it is not as easy to see imperfections, but you may see more than you want to. :)



As far as having as much faith in dealership prep work as you do, after what I have seen personally, and also seeing other detailer's work on here in C&B (click and brag forum) I could never trust any of them. You will always see members discourage others who are about to take delivery of a new car to not have their cars prepped by the dealer.



There is a reason for that.



Ok, enough rambling. Enjoy your Sunday.



Happy reading and learning. :)







seriously doubt a polish would have yielded much if any better results.
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