Need Advise

Thanks for all the advise everyone.

I may look into some different products. But I was hopeing to give it a go this weekend. For very light scratching would you use Meguiars 09 or Menzenra FP II? I'm thinking white or black pad to start.
 
The same way as the paint, just be more careful of the smaller area you have to polish. Maybe a 4" LC Flat Pad with a 3.5" Urethane Backing Plate from Lake Country should do the job for you.
 
Ok, so I did a test on half of my trunk to figure out how to tackle this tomorrow. I started with a white pad and FP II. Wasn't satisfied with the results. Went to and orange pad. Still not satisfied with results. Tried Meguiars 205 with a white pad. Better, but still not satisfied. Moved up to a orange pad. Pretty happy with results. Wondering if I should try a yellow pad or maybe just work it in longer? Maybe something stronger then 205? I'll try and take some pictures. Thanks for all the advise.
 
Ok, so I did a test on half of my trunk to figure out how to tackle this tomorrow. I started with a white pad and FP II. Wasn't satisfied with the results. Went to and orange pad. Still not satisfied with results. Tried Meguiars 205 with a white pad. Better, but still not satisfied. Moved up to a orange pad. Pretty happy with results. Wondering if I should try a yellow pad or maybe just work it in longer? Maybe something stronger then 205? I'll try and take some pictures. Thanks for all the advise.

No to the yellow pad, Do you still have swirls? How does it look? Pictures might help.
 
Ok, so I did a test on half of my trunk to figure out how to tackle this tomorrow. I started with a white pad and FP II. Wasn't satisfied with the results. Went to and orange pad. Still not satisfied with results. Tried Meguiars 205 with a white pad. Better, but still not satisfied. Moved up to a orange pad. Pretty happy with results. Wondering if I should try a yellow pad or maybe just work it in longer? Maybe something stronger then 205? I'll try and take some pictures. Thanks for all the advise.


I gotta ask....Does your client realize you are using there car as a practice vehicle? Maybe its your MIL or something :thumbup:

I'm not trying to preach at you or tell you you can't do this, but putting a rotary to paint can have either amazing results or devastating/ disasterous effects.

If I had any hesitant thoughts I would just clay, hand polish, wax and roll.

I do wish you the best and am looking forward to hearing how it turns out :wink:

Oh yea > tape up, tape up, tape up, tape up the edges/door handles and trim
 
It's my car. :)

I've had the car 3 months. Now you've got me nervous. I'll probably stick with the 205 and orange pad.

Where's the thread about taking pictures?
 
Go with your gut instinct...:wink:

As far as the pic's go....I tried 1 time to post pics...spent 3 hours(Not at TID) with no results. If and when I do figure this out I will be a pic posting fool :tongue:
 
It's my car. :)

I've had the car 3 months. Now you've got me nervous. I'll probably stick with the 205 and orange pad.

Where's the thread about taking pictures?

What other products you have? Do you have a photobucket account to down load your pictures?
 
If you reduced the swirls with the 205 and orange why not keep on with that another time. There have been times when I almost got it with that first pass so I go another with the same product/pad. Just a thought.

The PC7424XP is a random orbital just a little more powerful. You won't hurt anything with that machine but like Angelo said I wouldn't go to a yellow pad.
 
What other products you have? Do you have a photobucket account to down load your pictures?
Menzerna FP II , Meguiars swirl remover (#9) and Meguiars 205.

Do you guys think it's better to up the polish power or pad power? Since this is my first time polishing (although I've spent more thaan 20 hours researching, mostly from this site :) ) I'm trying to be conservative.
 
If you reduced the swirls with the 205 and orange why not keep on with that another time. There have been times when I almost got it with that first pass so I go another with the same product/pad. Just a thought.

The PC7424XP is a random orbital just a little more powerful. You won't hurt anything with that machine but like Angelo said I wouldn't go to a yellow pad.
I did make two passes. I was on speed 5. I'll probably try and go slower and use more pressure? No speed 6 right?
 
I did make two passes. I was on speed 5. I'll probably try and go slower and use more pressure? No speed 6 right?

Here is the thing.

Meguiar's M09 and Menzerna FPII are really not going to do much of anything other then refine the surface of the traditional hard clear coat your Mercedes has. They are final polishes. The majority of polishing action you get when using these is going to be from technique and pad selection.

M205 is a final polish, but because it used a different abrasive system, it will actually do some correction.

There are a couple of factors you are doing battle with...

The hardness of the paint: Most Mercedes use a PPG paint system which as been called 'Cermaclear' which is a very hard, not very polishable paint.

The depth of the swirl marks: Often times we 'see' the frequency of the swirls but we don't know how deep they run. A few deep swirls is going to require far more polishing then very frequent shallow swirls.

Inexperience: This is over come with.... experience, so keep at it.

When you are not getting the cut you want from a desired product/pad combo you can change your technique to increase the polishing action.

1)Work a smaller section- Shrink your section from 24x24 to 18x18.

2)Increase pressure- Use enough pressure to compress the foam and slow (but not stall) the rotation of the pad.

3)Slow down!- Moving the polisher across the surface too quickly will greatly reduce the amount polishing action. This and not using enough pressure are the too biggest mistakes most beginners use.

4)Increase power- I generally use speed 6 for polishing.

If you need something more aggressive you might want to consider Meguiar's M105 or if you need something a little smaller and available locally, consider Meguiar's Ultimate Compound
.
 
Here is the thing.

Meguiar's M09 and Menzerna FPII are really not going to do much of anything other then refine the surface of the traditional hard clear coat your Mercedes has. They are final polishes. The majority of polishing action you get when using these is going to be from technique and pad selection.

M205 is a final polish, but because it used a different abrasive system, it will actually do some correction.

There are a couple of factors you are doing battle with...

The hardness of the paint: Most Mercedes use a PPG paint system which as been called 'Cermaclear' which is a very hard, not very polishable paint.

The depth of the swirl marks: Often times we 'see' the frequency of the swirls but we don't know how deep they run. A few deep swirls is going to require far more polishing then very frequent shallow swirls.

Inexperience: This is over come with.... experience, so keep at it.

When you are not getting the cut you want from a desired product/pad combo you can change your technique to increase the polishing action.

1)Work a smaller section- Shrink your section from 24x24 to 18x18.

2)Increase pressure- Use enough pressure to compress the foam and slow (but not stall) the rotation of the pad.

3)Slow down!- Moving the polisher across the surface too quickly will greatly reduce the amount polishing action. This and not using enough pressure are the too biggest mistakes most beginners use.

4)Increase power- I generally use speed 6 for polishing.

If you need something more aggressive you might want to consider Meguiar's M105 or if you need something a little smaller and available locally, consider Meguiar's Ultimate Compound
.


^^^ Solid Advice There ^^^
 
Thanks for all the great advise. I think I'll be happy with the results using 205. When I get more experience I may try something more aggressive.
 
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