Need Advice ASAP on a BMW M3

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Here is a write up on some of the newer paint technology..............





The return of harder clears!





So now, many manufacturers have gone back to a harder version of clear coat to gain more scratch resistance. The term of these new generation of clears is simply called "scratch resistant clears" One common name for them is a brand called Cerami-Clear which simply uses nanno, or very tiny particles of ceramic that migrate to the very top portion of the clear coat and give it more scratch resistance against car washing and normal everyday abrasions. It's a better version of the old Melamine clear coats which are also very hard. But...some of these hard clear coats are very hard and very difficult to remove imperfections. You will need to be fairly aggressive to get anywhere with some of these newer, harder clears. I have also seen scratch resistant clears that once you buff through the very thin nanno section of ceramic particles that are at the very top of the clear, it turns into a softer clear underneath and can still swirl and mar very badly, even though technically it's a scratch resistant clear. So this can be very confusing and demoralizing for a the detailer as well.



In addition, not all vehicles are using these newer, harder clears. Some car manufacturers are using the scratch resistant clears on ALL their vehicles such as Mercedes. Some manufacturers are using these clears on some of their cars but not all of them. For example, BMW uses scratch resistant clear coat on all vehicles made in Germany. However, on their vehicles made in the US such as the Z4, X3 and X5, they are still using the softer powder clear coats at the plant in South Carolina. And a couple of years ago, before all the German made BMW's made the change to scratch resistant clear, some plants would still use a soft clear while some plants had already switched to a harder version. So it was not inconceivable to see the same year and same model vehicle, in the same color with one having a soft clear and one having a hard clear. That will make buffing rather interesting, wont it?



Some other car lines are still exclusively using soft clears. So, it's not so easy being a detailer these days as you can see. There are many different types of clear coats still in use with almost all of them having their own buffing characteristics





So you can understand how even for the professonals out there, paint technology is always changing.









Dave @ Innovative Detailing
 
MKWBMW said:
I live in York, PA. I have found a guy who seems really knowledgeable and is going to do a paint correction on it. I think I am taking it to him tonight. The dealership said they will wait to see what happens. The guys business is called Attention 2 detail. Anyone heard of him????



Don't be too suprised if it costs at least $500, if not more for a full correction. If someone says they can make the car swirl free for $100 they are either going to use fillers to hide the swirls or they don't mind making $8 an hour.
 
Scottwax said:
Only the jet black paint. All the rest are freakishly hard.



Agreed. Jet black is still stupid soft no matter what you throw at it. Super easy to remove defects, but have fun getting it glossed back up to a deep/haze free shine.
 
Well, I ended up working on an Interlagos with Conan777 just yesterday. It is an 05, always hand washed, but in terrible condition. The paint was very good to work on except that it had very deep scrathes. No swirls. It took 24 man hours to correct it. (It did include interior and engine) I charged $1200. You may find someone on here in Pa who can do it as well as I and if the car is brand new, well.... it should cost a lot less. How is the paint condition compared to these pictures?



PS: The paint is pretty hard. It is good if you know how to care for it.



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Guys, I'm missing something with this super-soft BMW jet black paint. I can see that the process of detailing would be more difficult. I mean, if an IPA wipedown after polishing causes micro-marring or swirls, that's a tough problem. Still, it sounds as if it can be brought to a flawless condition, but not maintained that way. Why not? If it is flawless, and then sealed or waxed, wouldn't its resistance to damage be a function of the LSP?



I'm not challenging what others have written, just trying to understand. My BMW is black; fortunately, it's not jet black.
 
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