imported_Denzil
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89gt-stanger said:
How does this favor American vehicles? 100 problems per 100 vehicles versus 94 problems per 100 vehicles?
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How does this favor American vehicles? 100 problems per 100 vehicles versus 94 problems per 100 vehicles?
imported_JoshVette
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Cleaning Fool said:
Good advise, that's kind of what I'm doing. I've actually been thinking about it for quite some time now but just got a house and so other things have been priority.
I'll make a good decision one way or another.
Showroom Shine said:
I take the generator out to use it, its a knockoff of a Kipor which is a knock off of a Honda EU and runs at less than 60db. Quieter than my vac.
As for water, pic on first page of this thread is mine. I use the cargo carrier to haul 35 gallons, 50ft of hose and a Briggs/CAT PW.
89gt-stanger
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Denzil said:
Porsche Ceyenne $43,000-$96,000
Lexus LX570 $75,000-$100k
Lincoln Navigator $44,000-$61,000
If 6 problems per 100 is worth $35,000-$39,000 more, than go for it. It also shows that an American company is coming back. 12th place last year, and 3rd this year, and quality is now superior to Toyota and Honda.
Envious Eric
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dude, just because you are pro-american made and anti foreign doesnt mean everyone else has to be...maybe we like the styling better of the foreign cars and that is why we buy them, or maybe its the type of leather used, or maybe its the long run track record of building a better car, not just the last year or two.
NOT EVERYONE HAS TO LIKE FORD
dont ruin this thread by posting your personal thoughts on others decisions.
NOT EVERYONE HAS TO LIKE FORD
dont ruin this thread by posting your personal thoughts on others decisions.
imported_Denzil
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89gt-stanger said:
Like I said, 100 per 100 versus 94 per 100. It has nothing to do with the value of the vehicles. That doesn't change the ratio of problems per vehicle.
I have had many Fords and still have 2. But superior to Toyota or Honda hmmm. On what do you base the "quality" ??? JD Power isn't a real measurement of quality in the long run, just how satisfied people are. One problem can be a transmission failure or a badly designed cup holder.. not very useful information IMHO.
But if you spend more you expect less problems, no? The point is the Lincolns have tippy top of the line reliability without having tippy top of the line price.
Thought I often wonder about the accuracy of all these comparisons. The fact is someone buying a new Toyota, Hyundai, etc. is going to be less likely to report a problem because they're obviously not in love with cars in general, so they might not care about a small issue or might not even notice it. Someone who is buying a Ferrari or Porsche, etc. might never notice it because they drive the car on an infrequent basis and have a daily driver they typically drive. And many people who own these aren't as particular about them as someone like you or i would be (you can see that by the state they're in before detail a lot of the time). Someone buying something in a Chevy might by hypercritical of the car expecting it to be problematic due to the common perception of american cars. Those stats also dont give a real representation of what the "problem" was or if there's a high chance of a car with a lot of problems and the rest fine, etc.
All in all, statistics are all lies anyways. Find something you like, at a price you're happy with and go from there. If it has issues, well that's why they created warranties and loaner cars.
Thought I often wonder about the accuracy of all these comparisons. The fact is someone buying a new Toyota, Hyundai, etc. is going to be less likely to report a problem because they're obviously not in love with cars in general, so they might not care about a small issue or might not even notice it. Someone who is buying a Ferrari or Porsche, etc. might never notice it because they drive the car on an infrequent basis and have a daily driver they typically drive. And many people who own these aren't as particular about them as someone like you or i would be (you can see that by the state they're in before detail a lot of the time). Someone buying something in a Chevy might by hypercritical of the car expecting it to be problematic due to the common perception of american cars. Those stats also dont give a real representation of what the "problem" was or if there's a high chance of a car with a lot of problems and the rest fine, etc.
All in all, statistics are all lies anyways. Find something you like, at a price you're happy with and go from there. If it has issues, well that's why they created warranties and loaner cars.
Envious Eric
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jay, you forgot about the narrow street he sometimes has to drive on...no way getting through tight ally's with a trailer.
WhiteStripes
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I like the idea of the HHR panel, they look nice, and look like they mean business. The Element looks to be a good choice too.
Thomas Dekany
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Josh - did I miss reading that you are looking for a used vehicle?
I thought the target was a new car. In any case, the top 2 choices have been the Toyota Highlander and Honda Pilot in most car magazines. if the Highlander is over the budget, an Acadia is way way over it. Isn't it?
I thought the target was a new car. In any case, the top 2 choices have been the Toyota Highlander and Honda Pilot in most car magazines. if the Highlander is over the budget, an Acadia is way way over it. Isn't it?
imported_JoshVette
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tdekany said:
Yes, used 1-3 years old.... new to me though.
I love the look of the Acadia and did a little gas mileage research and learned it's nothing near the 22mpg GM claims, it's more like 15-18mpg.... disappointing.
I think I'm slowly narrowing it down to the Nissan Pathfinder, Toyota FJ Cruiser.... both are not as large as I'd like but I think I can make them work, both are stylish in there own way. The FJ Cruiser looks like a utility vehicle.
I haven't seen them in person yet so I'll still have to check out the cargo space and see if they will work for my needs. I'd really like something the size of a Tahoe, Suburban or Armada, but they are just either too pricy or too horrible on gas...
Tough decisions......:work:
Josh
imported_Denzil
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The Pathfinder and FJ Cruiser are both great choices Josh. I think you'll be happy with either. I think you'll be cashing out on the slightly used vehicles. Let us know what you pick up! Make sure you include pictures as well!!!
Driven Auto Detail
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The 4.0LV6 and the 5-spd auto in the Toyota is fantastic! The manual recommends premium and gas mileage isn't anything to write home about, but that engine and trans. makes for a vehicle with lots of power and smooth shifting.
So, from the two vehicles you narrowed it down to, I'd go for the FJ Cruiser.
So, from the two vehicles you narrowed it down to, I'd go for the FJ Cruiser.
Thomas Dekany
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JoshVette said:
I once went in to an autozone to get a new mit and noticed this guy looking lost. Started asking him what he was looking to get and turned out that he just purchased a brand new FJ Cruiser in silver. A week later we prepped it. That was 3 years ago and a few months ago I did my once a year detail on it for the 3rd time. He takes good care of it and still no signs of any swirls. Last time all I needed to do was Poli seal and the usual FK1 #1000. On top of it he is a firefighter. A real good guy. I guess that comes with the job.
The car looks pretty cool inside although a little weird due to the design, but with the rear seats down, you should be fine. However nothing like a new Highlander. That has a lot more space. (latest model)