Need a compound with less hazing than Hyper Compound...

joyriide1113 said:
Try Adding a little bit of RMG, OP, or any other medium/mild polish with it. I haven't tried it, but many have attested to it. It should leave less haze and alot more finish ready.

Curious why nobody has recommended this. It seems liek the new popular compound mix.
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I actually have been mixing it with P&S Ultracoat Polish for a bit now, it seems to be working out really well. I can go from a 50/50 ratio up to 80/20, depending on how aggressive I need the compound to be. I would like to try mixing it with OP but the only bottle I have is from the stupid chunky batch, I need to order some more.
I also bought a second Edge green foam pad strictly for use with OHC I tried slowing down the speed to about 15-1600 and it seems to work great for light cutting on lighter colored cars
 
Optimum Polish is famous for its longer working time. I think the longer working time benfit you as it won't breakdown at the same time the compound does, and will let you smooth out the finish more without having do stop working it in...
 
LikeaRock said:
I actually have been mixing it with P&S Ultracoat Polish for a bit now, it seems to be working out really well. I can go from a 50/50 ratio up to 80/20, depending on how aggressive I need the compound to be. I would like to try mixing it with OP but the only bottle I have is from the stupid chunky batch, I need to order some more.
I also bought a second Edge green foam pad strictly for use with OHC I tried slowing down the speed to about 15-1600 and it seems to work great for light cutting on lighter colored cars
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I was told the reformulated OP has a gold sticker on the bottle do you know if this is correct?
 
joe.p said:
I was told the reformulated OP has a gold sticker on the bottle do you know if this is correct?
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If that's what the gold sticker means then yes, the new bottles have that sticker. I was browsing the Detailing section on GMFullSize yesterday and a member posted a picture of the new OP, had that sticker so I assume it's the new formula
 
My top 2 choices would be:
(and #1 may swap with #2 soon -after I have more seat time)

1) Menzerna PG mixed with FPII (you still get some dust, and it gums up the pad, but finishes very clean)

2) TOL Extreme Cut/Optimum (50/50). No gumming, dusting, and it finishes pretty close to Menzerna. It applies like hot butter via the rotary.
 
mgm2003 said:
2) TOL Extreme Cut/Optimum (50/50). No gumming, dusting, and it finishes pretty close to Menzerna. It's applies like hot butter via the rotary.
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THANK YOU! :D
Exactly what I'm looking for! I remember your recent thread where you tried this product mix, and along with G35stilez' impressive results with this combo I think I'm going to give it a try. I'm getting down to the end of my OHC, I'll be ordering another bottle soon and when I do I'll have to add some TOL ECL and OP to the list
 
LikeaRock said:
THANK YOU! :D
Exactly what I'm looking for! I remember your recent thread where you tried this product mix, and along with G35stilez' impressive results with this combo I think I'm going to give it a try. I'm getting down to the end of my OHC, I'll be ordering another bottle soon and when I do I'll have to add some TOL ECL and OP to the list
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I think you'll like this mix. It cuts up swirls/defects quick impressively, and doesn't leave you with dust, splatter, gummed up pads, etc..

Finish hazing is minimal compared to most other compounds that I've worked with. A finishing pad/polish cleans up -if that helps describe it better.

As with any compound... you will still need to spur or change pads on neglected finishes.

I've mixed in RMG with my finishing polishes (3:1 -OPT, FPII, BF). On light colors and metallic paint I can see a difference (i.e. a lot more 'pop').
I haven't experimented much with RMG and compound.

Personally I think the 'lube' you get from OPT polish will work better than RMG on compounding duties.
 
Dust is really the only thing that can stir me away from a compound, otherwise I'm more than happy to try it, but I'm sold on TOL for now. Couple questions, exactly how aggressive is the TOL/OP combo (ratios from 1:1 to 3:1) and will it shine through on fairly neglected darker finishes? I've been getting a lot of those lately... And also have you used Hyper Compound before? If so, how would you rate the two as far as cutting capabilities with say a yellow Edge foam pad (cutting pad)?

Thanks in advance
Dolan
 
LikeaRock said:
Dust is really the only thing that can stir me away from a compound, otherwise I'm more than happy to try it, but I'm sold on TOL for now. Couple questions, I've been getting a lot of those lately... And also have you used Hyper Compound before? If so, how would you rate the two as far as cutting capabilities with say a yellow Edge foam pad (cutting pad)?

Thanks in advance
Dolan
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Dolan,

I see a lot of 'darker' (i.e. -black paint) too.
For some reason, folks that purchase dark paint hate to take care of the finish (LOL).

To answer a few of your questions:

"How aggressive is the TOL/OP combo": ??

-It depends on your pad & speed (1500-1700 RPM's does the trick for me) -but I've only used it a few times (so take that into consideration).

-"Are you using a DA or Rotary?"
(A question from me...)

I've only used a Rotary (Metabo) & DA (Cyclo). Both worked well, but the rotary was exceptionally impressive.

-"Exactly how aggressive is the TOL/OP combo (ratios from 1:1 to 3:1) and will it shine through on fairly neglected darker finishes?"

I try to stay away from yellow cutting pads -they are too aggressive for my taste (99% of the time). I get better results with less aggressive pads and more aggressive chemicals.


I've had great luck using a mid cut pad on the 'nasty' stuff. (orange LC).

I've only used Extreme Cut/Optimum Polish mixed "50/50" (I have a pre-mixed 8 oz bottle that I use now). I think this ratio is a big part of what keeps your pads from gumming up and compound dust flying around.

I LOVE optimum polish, but have not had 'consistent' results from Optimum Compounds.

Does this help?
 
Agreed on the Compounds, I think it take's sometime getting use to. Opt Polish is one sweet long buffing polish. Thoughts on RMG & Any other Polish/Compound, does it fill? Or just improve gloss.
 
I've had good luck with Edge green polishing pad when cutting but I've found that the yellow pad really shines when I'm working with a surface that really needs some TLC. I do use a rotary, most of my cutting is done around 1500-1800 RPM's, sounds like this combo works well in that range.
I understand what you mean about not getting consistancy with Optimum's compounds. I don't think I've ever had bad luck with it but I have gotten different results with it on different cars. I think Hyper Compound really shines through on neglected Single Stage paintjobs, I've got a VERY neglected 1987 5 series that I'll be doing a detail on shortly, I tested one panel with OHC and a yellow Edge pad, I was pretty impressed with how well it cut through all that dead paint!
Does AG or anyone else sell those sample bottles for mixing? I'll have to throw a coupla' those on the list too!

Dolan
 
LikeaRock said:
Does AG or anyone else sell those sample bottles for mixing? I'll have to throw a coupla' those on the list too!

Dolan
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I picked up a few 8oz squeeze bottles from TOL and they work great for mixing up the famous G35stilez "Un-Compound" ;)

-Good luck, please share your results.
 
Well today I tried the Optimum Polish/Hyper Compound mix, it worked great! I had a green Ford Taurus this morning that had some swirling, light surface scratches, and just needed a good polish in general. I mixed both OP and HC 50/50 and I got one hell of a product. It took a little longer to work in rather than straight HC but it finished up very smooth and no hazing at all. It spread really easy and quite far, 2 good sized dabs easily covered a panel. I started the car in the morning and finished right as the fog was clearing out, the car came out great (No pics though, woke up late this morning and forgot to grab my camera). I'm anxious to see how this combo will work on a car thats in a bit better shape
 
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