My Zaino Review

BillNorth

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I had a chance to try Zaino Bros. show car polish back on July 18th, and thought I would share my experience.



The Car:



2000 Oldmobile Alero with silver mist metallic paint. The car sits outside 24/7/365. It was previously detailed last October with a wash, clay with mothers and QD as lube, AIO with PC and polishing pad and SGx3 back to back (as an experiment - didn't like it) and 1x blitz immediately after (another experiment - again, didn't like it).



This detail:



This car was a total mess. My father used a hay broom on numerous occasions to clean snow off the car. You can imagine how swirled it was! For silver it looked really bad.



I started by washing with eagle one and drying with my pakshak WW and followed up with an MF to get the last bit of moisture.



I then clayed with mothers using the supplied QD as lube.



Next step was to remove the swirls. I had my trusty 1000 watt halogens by my side for this. I started with My PC, meguiars cutting pad, and 3M Finesse it II. Started on speed 3 for the first 2 passes (front to back, side to side), then up to speed 5 for the next two passes (front to back, side to side). After these 4 passes, the polish was pretty dry. I couldn't really work it with the PC anymore. I buffed the residue off with a clean MF. I believe the quick drying was due to the humidity. I ended up doing the entire hood 4 seperate times, the roof 3x, and the trunk 3x. I also did both rear quarter panels 2x. The rest of the car looked ok. Some swirls, but no time to get rid of them. The hood, roof and trunk really ate way at my time as they were the worst.



As a side note, I wonder why so many have stopped usings finesse it. This is such a great polish that produces consistent results time afte time. My paint looked great and it squeaked because it was so claen!



Next up was Klasse AIO with the PC plus a meguiars polishing pad. I started at speed 3 for the first 2 passes and moved up to 4 for the last few. Once dry I buffed the residue with an MF. AIO was not drying as quickly as the FI2. Once I finished, the paint had a very nice satiny feel to it. Typical of AIO. It was so great to use AIO again, especially after the WG polish debacle I endured earlier in the summer.



After the AIO step was complete, it was approaching midnight, so I left the car for the day and decided to z in the morning. I was working on the exterior for 6 hours, 5 - midnight, minus an hour for dinner. The interior took me 4 hours (1-5), it was fricken mess! Had I skipped that I would have been able to get the whole exterior done.



Next morning I woke up and applied z1 and z5 as per the instructions on the back of both bottles. I used a slightly dampened (with tap water) terry applicator. Both products went on easily. I let them dry for about 45 minutes before doing the swipe test on the window. The product came off clean, so I began buffing the residue with my MF. The z1/z5 came off very easily. I would say WG SG was a touch easier to remove, but not by much. Z has KSG beaten in removal even with WOO.



The car had a nice look to it. It definately was not plasticky as described by many. It had a very nice clear look to it. A look that enhanced the nicely polished surface underneath. I would say the main difference between z, WG and klasse sg is that z has a clearer look, which is not surprising since it is 99% optically clear, SG has more of a bright candy coated shine, and WG has more of a muted look, which lends itself well to darker colours. Both SG and Z look nice on silver (haven't tried WG).



Initial (5 minutes after buffing off) slickness was nothing spectacular. But after waiting an hour and going back, the slickness had improved dramatically. WG was a touch slicker to me. Z is definately slicker than SG. After giving it more thought, I would have to say that SG is not really a slick product. SG has more of a satiny smooth feel. It isn't really a slippery slick feeling.



I had an opportunity to wash the car on weeks 2, 3, and 5 (today). During weeks 2 and 3 I washed with eagle one. The water repellency of the z was excellent during both washes. I would say the durability was like freshly applied product. Slickness was down by 50%, but this is understandable considering the car is outside all the time. Z definately retained more slickness than wg at the 2 and 3 week point. ksg seems to hold onto its satiny feel for a fair amunt of time as well, though it isn't appreciated as much when compared to the feeling provided by other products. After washing today, I noticed that the water repellencey was suffering a bit. The z was still repelling all the water prior to the 1 minute mark. This was down from under 15 seconds on weeks 2 and 3. Still, durability was excellent.



I used my z7 when washing today and was very impressed with it. It provided the most lubricity out of the three car washes I have used. My mitt just glided over the surface. I really like z7.



I also tested z6 on one panel and was impressed. It brought back slickness to almost freshly applied status.



I also applied a coat of z2 today. I need to start layering before the cold weather comes in October. I applied the product in the same manner as z1/z5. Came off just as easily as well. I didn't notice a difference in depth, or shine. I should in a few days once the product has cured.



Now, onto the only thing I don't like about z. It really does magnify any swirls you have in the paint. My Father really went to town with the hay broom so I wasn't able to get all the swirls out. Some were really deep. I say the car is about 80-85% swirl free. Under the halogens the remaining swirls didn't stand out too much. But after z1/z5'ing and looking at the paint in the sun, I was disappointed at how noticable the last 15% of swirls were. Technically this should not be a criticism of z, but more of my surface prep. I cannot stess enough how important proper prep is, when using any product, but especially zaino. If you apply over swirls, then expect them to really stand out.



I didn't find the 1 layer of z5 to lessen any of the swirls. This was expected based on how much I read about the product prior to purchasing.



Overall, I would highly recommend z1, z2, z5, z6, and z7. They are all quality products. Just ensure you have prepped the surface well prior to using z2/z5.



Well, that's my review. I hope you enjoyed it.



Bill.
 
Excellent review! It was very thorough and enjoyable to read. Thanks for doing it! :up



I still have about 3/4 bottle of FI-2. I agree, it's an excellent product when used correctly. I just find it to be a bit difficult to remove if not worked in long enough. Maybe I should give it another shot.
 
tkr128 said:
Excellent review! It was very thorough and enjoyable to read. Thanks for doing it! :up



I still have about 3/4 bottle of FI-2. I agree, it's an excellent product when used correctly. I just find it to be a bit difficult to remove if not worked in long enough. Maybe I should give it another shot.



Thanks for the kind words.



Your right about FI2, it can be a PITA to remove. Though I've only noiticed this during high humidity. Cooler days make the product easier to remove. Still, maybe not as easy as some of the others, like menzerna and 1z (which I'd like to try, moist likely next summer).
 
Excellent review and write-up Bill.

I believe you hit every aspect on a good prep protocol for using any protectant product/type including Zaino. :bow



I too notice the unforgiving nature of Zaino in terms of not having a "make-up" ingredient to hide the last 10-15% of surface marring. As you stated, not a product short-coming but a prep problem. Hopefully your father will not add to this total and next year when you re-prep the last 10-15% can be eliminated. :cool:

It sounds like that the great deal of time you invested in prep and application of the Zaino polishes was well spent.

Thanks for taking the time to write this review.:xyxthumbs
 
Nice Review! I have been lookin around on forums to see how the application and removal of zaino was compared to Klasse. As of right know do you like klasse or zaino more?
 
enjoyed the reading, very refreshing because you seemed to be so un-biased in your remarks and test.



I haven't used Zaino YET because the Z system does not have its own compatible SMR nor a good (from what I have read also) swirl filler for those last 10%. Until Sal does, I won't be investing $100+ in a Z-KIT as of now.
 
Bill, I totally agree with you. Many people blame this product for the swirls they are able to see when in fact the fault is in the paint prep. I also like the Z6 and Z7 and never bothered with Z5.



Nice writeup :up
 
jmsc said:


I haven't used Zaino YET because the Z system does not have its own compatible SMR nor a good (from what I have read also) swirl filler for those last 10%. Until Sal does, I won't be investing $100+ in a Z-KIT as of now.



Actually a good decision. Until one is able to master the art of repairing surface marring other products with filling ability is a better choice. I doubt Sal will compromise his famous durability by adding a filler component that can handle serious marring.

Zaino is in the protection business not the Prep business. Zaino has been working on a SMR for the last 2 years, but like all of Sal products, it will not see the light of day until it's perfect. With that stated even an SMR will only get you the last 3-5%.

Do a search on prep products and their proper usage for the first 95% surface marring elimination. Most are applicable to all protectant systems.



A good start is Meg's HC,MC, LC and or DACP, Menzerna products, 1Z products, 3m has too many to name.

The proper use of a PC and pad selection.

Learning to use and master a rotary.



These items are all part of the hobby, and for many the vocation of elite detailing.:xyxthumbs
 
series1 said:
Nice Review! I have been lookin around on forums to see how the application and removal of zaino was compared to Klasse. As of right know do you like klasse or zaino more?



I'm glad you guys enjoyed the review.



series1,



I wouldnt say I absolutely like one more than the other. For me it all depends on the colour of the car. For instance, klasse to me looks incredible on blue, so that's what I use on blue. I like WG on my green, and I like z and sg so far on silver. In terms of app and removal, neither product is a chore to use, though z is easier. sg is pretty easy for me with the WOO method.



It really does depend on colour. Just play around with different things and you'll eventually find something you like.



Bill.
 
Nice review. I've never used Zaino myself, but from results I've seen it does a very nice job. There are a lot of good combinations out there to choose from and Zaino is one of them.:)
 
Wow! That is probably the most thorough review I have read on Autopia! I also appreciate your thoughts after washing a few times. Very informative!



Keep us posted on the durability and how well the appearance holds up.
 
Great review Bill, thanks for the time you took to share your experience with us.



I see you are going to try to layer Zaino, did you buy any ZFX? It really does speed up the application of layers, down here in SC Z2 with ZFX is just about WOWO and I can apply three layers of Z2 very quickly.



If your're interested, I just purchased some more ZFX to experiment using it with other sealants, but I still have some left in an old container. PM me if you are interested and I can send you some. I know I'd enjoy reading your review of ZFX!



If there are any FMJ users out there who would like to send me 1/2 to 1 oz so I can test it against Zaino and EX-P and test if ZFX speeds up it's cure time, let me know!





Later.....
 
WOW...what an outstanding review Bill.... Awesome work..:bow



Alot of my Z (Nissan) friends are Zaino fans. Its almost like a cult. This review makes me want to give this product a try.
 
Bill, why did you opt for the Klasse under the Z? How do you think the finish would have looked without the Klasse step?



Chris Pace
 
Thanks for the in depth review Bill. It is this kind of effort that makes it fun and rewarding to participate on autopia. I enjoyed this review so much I read it twice!
 
Scott, will do. I'll keep everyone posted on durability.



RedondoV6, I bought my Z from one of the local barber shops here in Toronto. They don't stock zfx, only z1. For me it's not a big deal. I actually like waiting a full week before adding another layer. I just do it after my weekly wash. Thank you very much for the zfx offer. That's very kind of you. For now I'll stick with z1. I may try a zfx experiment next summer to see how it compares against the old school z1 way.



Chris, I used AIO under z because I find that it can remove the hazing caused by FI2. I don't consider FI2 to be a good pre wax polish (via pc. may be different with a rotary), but I do consider AIO to be. If z had their own AIO I would have used it instead. I think the finish would have looked the same without AIO. I've never noticed all in one to tint or change the appearance of the paint. SG, on the other hand, definitiely does add a candy look.



Bill.
 
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