My Wolfgang Review
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Deanski
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nycpassat,
Are you going to Poorboy's World Detailing Day?
See the thread here: Poorboy's Detailing Day
Pass it along! Going to be a fun day!
Regards,
Deanski
Are you going to Poorboy's World Detailing Day?
See the thread here: Poorboy's Detailing Day
Pass it along! Going to be a fun day!
Regards,
Deanski
**UPDATE - July 10th**
I hand washed the car again today using Mothers California Gold. I dried with my pak shak WW and followed up with a regular pk MF. My observations:
Beading/Sheeting - Almost non existent. It took about 3 minutes for the water to sheet off the roof. The actual sheeting I attribute more to the forces of gravity than the WG. After the first minute most of the water was still clinging.
Slickness - Same as before. Still no slickness left. It literally feels like bare paint. When I run my fingers across the surface they drag.
Look/Shine - Again, same as before. The paint still looks good. It still has some of the wolfgang glow to it.
Based on today's wash, I'm inclined to say that my WG is dead after almost 8 weeks. The beading/sheeting, or lack thereof, is what is drawing me to this conclusion.
I went ahead and applied another layer of WG sealant to the car. I must say again, this sealant really is a pleasure to work with. Easy on, and sooo easy off. Even the areas that I applied it thick it still came off easy. Slickness was back to where it was at day 1.
As a side note, I also applied another layer of SG to the other car. Compared to the WG, the SG was a PITA to remove, even using WOO. It was pretty hot today. The SG was drying on the surface rather quickly, while the WG on the other hand was a breeze. Having both SG and WG frwshly applied side by side I have to say that the WG was much slicker than the SG. Though the SG holds it's slickness for longer.
I may start layering the WG in the same manner that I do SG. I'll probably do 2 or 3 more than top with my souveran (I've been anxious to use it, but have held back for this test).
My final thoughts:
The WG sealant is a good 2 month sealant. Eae of use and carnuba like appearance are it's biggest assets. Longevity, compared to klasse and zaino, is not. If you purchase it expecting any more than 2 months than you will be disappointed. The cleaner, as stated before, is garbage IMHO. Save your money.
Well, that's it! Happy detailing!
Bill. :up
I hand washed the car again today using Mothers California Gold. I dried with my pak shak WW and followed up with a regular pk MF. My observations:
Beading/Sheeting - Almost non existent. It took about 3 minutes for the water to sheet off the roof. The actual sheeting I attribute more to the forces of gravity than the WG. After the first minute most of the water was still clinging.
Slickness - Same as before. Still no slickness left. It literally feels like bare paint. When I run my fingers across the surface they drag.
Look/Shine - Again, same as before. The paint still looks good. It still has some of the wolfgang glow to it.
Based on today's wash, I'm inclined to say that my WG is dead after almost 8 weeks. The beading/sheeting, or lack thereof, is what is drawing me to this conclusion.
I went ahead and applied another layer of WG sealant to the car. I must say again, this sealant really is a pleasure to work with. Easy on, and sooo easy off. Even the areas that I applied it thick it still came off easy. Slickness was back to where it was at day 1.
As a side note, I also applied another layer of SG to the other car. Compared to the WG, the SG was a PITA to remove, even using WOO. It was pretty hot today. The SG was drying on the surface rather quickly, while the WG on the other hand was a breeze. Having both SG and WG frwshly applied side by side I have to say that the WG was much slicker than the SG. Though the SG holds it's slickness for longer.
I may start layering the WG in the same manner that I do SG. I'll probably do 2 or 3 more than top with my souveran (I've been anxious to use it, but have held back for this test).
My final thoughts:
The WG sealant is a good 2 month sealant. Eae of use and carnuba like appearance are it's biggest assets. Longevity, compared to klasse and zaino, is not. If you purchase it expecting any more than 2 months than you will be disappointed. The cleaner, as stated before, is garbage IMHO. Save your money.
Well, that's it! Happy detailing!
Bill. :up
LightngSVT
New member
Great test. I have WG on my daily driver Contour SVT (It sits out 24x7). Im about 10 weeks out and still have good beading, although I did apply 2 coats. I also have QD'ed 2 times since applying it. My method was a wash with NXT wash and applying the WG polish and sealer by hand.
imported_Sullybob
Member
Thanks for the review. Very informative.
Bill,
I think that Wolfgang may be very dependent, for lack of a better description on how it's washed. I washed the 4Runner with Meguiar's Car wash strips and noticed that there was no beading/sheating action anymore. I washed a week later with Wolfgang car wash, and instantly the beads were back like crazy. Even using Zaino and EO wash the beading was excellent. So, I think the wash makes a big difference.
As for the durability - I am at 17 weeks of enhanced appearance, slickness, and beading. You really should be in contact with Wolfgang if you feel you are getting inferior results with your product.
I think that Wolfgang may be very dependent, for lack of a better description on how it's washed. I washed the 4Runner with Meguiar's Car wash strips and noticed that there was no beading/sheating action anymore. I washed a week later with Wolfgang car wash, and instantly the beads were back like crazy. Even using Zaino and EO wash the beading was excellent. So, I think the wash makes a big difference.
As for the durability - I am at 17 weeks of enhanced appearance, slickness, and beading. You really should be in contact with Wolfgang if you feel you are getting inferior results with your product.
Zane,
I washed the car last week with EO, and noticed no enhancement in beading or slickness. If using the WG shampoo, I would expect it to bring the WG back to life. I avoided any types of polymer washes for the sole purpose of guaging how durable the product is on its own.
I don't think I will be contacting WG about my experience. Technically, their product worked as advertised. The back of my WG sealant bottle says the sealant will last 'months, not weeks'. And technically it did last months. Two to be precise.
It's no big deal. I'm not upset that it lasted two months. What upset me was all the people who failed to follow up their intial glowing reviews of the product. Everyone all kind of waited and waited and then decided to speak up about how they were disappointed with durability. I wish they had been as diligent with their follow up reports as they were with their picture taking. I'll continue to use WG. Not sure if I'll buy more when I run out. We'll see...
Bill. :up
I washed the car last week with EO, and noticed no enhancement in beading or slickness. If using the WG shampoo, I would expect it to bring the WG back to life. I avoided any types of polymer washes for the sole purpose of guaging how durable the product is on its own.
I don't think I will be contacting WG about my experience. Technically, their product worked as advertised. The back of my WG sealant bottle says the sealant will last 'months, not weeks'. And technically it did last months. Two to be precise.
It's no big deal. I'm not upset that it lasted two months. What upset me was all the people who failed to follow up their intial glowing reviews of the product. Everyone all kind of waited and waited and then decided to speak up about how they were disappointed with durability. I wish they had been as diligent with their follow up reports as they were with their picture taking. I'll continue to use WG. Not sure if I'll buy more when I run out. We'll see...
Bill. :up
Scott,
I know you have been very thorough with your reviews and followups, and as a member, I appreciate that. :up And you're right, such is life on the internet. I just need to be more selective with the reviews I take seriously.
Bill. :up
ps: my 'picture taking' comment in the other post was not directed at you. I just noticed in general, people spend more time taking pics than they do writing detailed reviews.
I know you have been very thorough with your reviews and followups, and as a member, I appreciate that. :up And you're right, such is life on the internet. I just need to be more selective with the reviews I take seriously.
Bill. :up
ps: my 'picture taking' comment in the other post was not directed at you. I just noticed in general, people spend more time taking pics than they do writing detailed reviews.
**Update** - July 12th
I wanted to pass on one more observation I just made. Today was the first time that I was able to view the car in the sun since applying the second coat on July 10th. It seems as though it is not just the cleaner that fills and hides swirls. The sealant also does a very good job of this. I have many north to south swirls from my old drying towels that are present under bright light. Well, today they are no longer present. The finish looks very mirrior like with very little, if any marring visible.
Evidently the WG sealant has fillers in it as well. I was under the assumption that only the 'cleaner' had fillers. Interesting...
I wonder if the lack of 'cleaner' used for the second coat will allow the second coat to bond better and last longer? And maybe the fillers will last as well, or maybe not, if they are just pure oil.
I don't know yet, but I will keep this thread updated as the sealant wears out again.
Bill.
I wanted to pass on one more observation I just made. Today was the first time that I was able to view the car in the sun since applying the second coat on July 10th. It seems as though it is not just the cleaner that fills and hides swirls. The sealant also does a very good job of this. I have many north to south swirls from my old drying towels that are present under bright light. Well, today they are no longer present. The finish looks very mirrior like with very little, if any marring visible.
Evidently the WG sealant has fillers in it as well. I was under the assumption that only the 'cleaner' had fillers. Interesting...
I wonder if the lack of 'cleaner' used for the second coat will allow the second coat to bond better and last longer? And maybe the fillers will last as well, or maybe not, if they are just pure oil.
I don't know yet, but I will keep this thread updated as the sealant wears out again.
Bill.