My swirls are back?! WHY

awahl63 said:
Did you see the swirls in the sun or under the halogens?
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I'm seeing the swirls in direct sunlight

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(sorry the car is filthy but I recognized them immediately :bawling: :help: :(
 
Well lets go through your process on the last detail to the current wash.



Please take the time to outline every aspect of the paint detail you can. from start up to the point you posted this thread.
 
sftempest66 said:
I'm seeing the swirls in direct sunlight.
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Did you look at the car under direct sun immediately after the detail or just the halogens? (Personally I don't trust halogens to reveal all!!)
 
Grouse said:
Well lets go through your process on the last detail to the current wash.



Please take the time to outline every aspect of the paint detail you can. from start up to the point you posted this thread.
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ok, wash, (the car had been clayed previously), and then chamois the car, dry it up with the microfiber, then I began testing since it was my first time, so I used the optimum compound, with a LC orange pad, on speed 4500, let it haze over, used a microfiber to buff it out, almost all swirls were gone, then I used the white pad with optimum polish, let it haze a lil, then took it off by hand, finally I applied a coat of Poorboys EX with caranuba to the car by HAND and let it dry, etc off with a microfiber....



superstring said:
Did you look at the car under direct sun immediately after the detail or just the halogens? (Personally I don't trust halogens to reveal all!!)
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maybe thats what is wrong? :(, this would suck if I had to do the whole car again :(
 
I was more refering to the exact process.



IE how you wash, how you dry, how you buff.



Did you use a 50/50% alchohol water solution to wipe off the OPC? possibly the OP polish and OPC left some minor filling.



what did you use to apply the ex?
 
Grouse said:
I was more refering to the exact process.



IE how you wash, how you dry, how you buff.



Did you use a 50/50% alchohol water solution to wipe off the OPC? possibly the OP polish and OPC left some minor filling.



what did you use to apply the ex?
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I did not use any solution to wipe off the OPC or the OP, I used different microfibers for each product though, but I didnt use a solution or a quick detail spray, I wash with a clean mitt, soap from pep boys, running from the roof down to the running boards, making sure not to get the mitt dirty until the last part of the car, then I use a chamois and do the same process, and with buffing I use the pad, put some compound on the pad and slowly work each fender/hood/roof area, I set the PC on 4500 RPM and then I dont press down but I let the PC do the work, and make sure to go relatively slow....more detailed then that? should I use a mixture to help wipe off the compound? I'm confused and I'm new to all of these new products
 
I am not familiar with OP products, but that was my understanding of the reason why to use a 50/50 mix. It removes all the polish incase it is hiding some swirls. It lets you see your true work. if i am mistaken in this one of the more knowledgable guys will let us know.
 
Grouse said:
I am not familiar with OP products, but that was my understanding of the reason why to use a 50/50 mix. It removes all the polish incase it is hiding some swirls. It lets you see your true work. if i am mistaken in this one of the more knowledgable guys will let us know.
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hmm alright, Well would you use a solution of water and say "rubbing alcohol" in a spray bottle and then lightly mist the area after the compound? or would you spray it on your microfiber
 
I spray it on the paint. I use Isopropyl alcohol. I am not sure if that is rubbing alcohol or not... 50/50

then liberally spray the worked area. wipe it off. inspect it.
 
Grouse said:
I spray it on the paint. I use Isopropyl alcohol. I am not sure if that is rubbing alcohol or not... 50/50

then liberally spray the worked area. wipe it off. inspect it.
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how can you tell if all of the compound is off?
 
If the car's just been sitting, and hasn't been touched, then the marring was always there. Must not've been as visible under the halogens as it is in sunlight. That's one reason why I do most of my inspection under high-wattage incandescents instead of halogens ;) It can pay to use multiple light sources when inspecting, less chance of surprises like this one.



In many cases *IMO* there's nothing wrong with a product "hiding" some marring. Just use a long-lasting LSP to seal in the "fillers" and it'll look good for a long time. Yeah, on some cars I'll occasionally polish out all the marring but it's not the only approach for everyone every time. Consider that many (most?) people mar the paint again in short order and if you keep polishing it all the time you'll eventually take off too much clear/paint. A color like that, with a little better prep work ;) can look fine for a long, long time without being literally perfect.



And yeah, "IPA" is "rubbing alcohol" though the concentration can vary. No, no, I don't mean "IPA" as in India Pale Ale ;)
 
superstring said:
Did you look at the car under direct sun immediately after the detail or just the halogens? (Personally I don't trust halogens to reveal all!!)
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There's your problem right there...I'd try to just deal with it for the next couple months...
 
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