My Poli-Seal just arrived and....

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Bert

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I am planning to use it as my final polish/base coat for Jeff's Acrylic Jett. However, I read the label and it said:



Contains: Mineral Spirits (8052-41-3), Water (7732-18-5), Silicon Fluid (63148-62-8), and Carnauba Wax (8015-86-9).



I thought I have read on here numerous times that a sealant will not bond with a layer of Carnauba Wax? If so, how does Poli-Seal make such a good base for sealants. Now I am confused.
 
Personally, I dont think that it does make a good base for sealants, with the exception of OS. KAIO/ZAIO/Prime Strong/OP, are probably your best bets.
 
NSXTASY said:
Personally, I dont think that it does make a good base for sealants, with the exception of OS. KAIO/ZAIO/Prime Strong/OP, are probably your best bets.
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What happened when you tried it?
 
bert31 said:
What happened when you tried it?
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KSG, Z2, and Ultima didnt spread right, they seemed to smear over the the OPS. Additonally, the aforementioned sealants did not seem to last over OPS, therefore, I never use OPS as a base for a durable sealant. Don't get me wrong, I love OPS, just not as a base for sealants (except OS, which works great after about 20-30 mins of OPS "curing").
 
I tested Poli Seal and didn't find it anything special. Nice look but average durability. It also seems very oilyish.
 
I've had no problems using AJT over Poli-Seal. I usually wait about 20 minutes after I buff off OPS before applying AJT.
 
Scottwax said:
I've had no problems using AJT over Poli-Seal. I usually wait about 20 minutes after I buff off OPS before applying AJT.
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Have you found similar durability with the OPS as opposed to Prime as base when used in conjunction with AJT?
 
NSXTASY said:
Have you found similar durability with the OPS as opposed to Prime as base when used in conjunction with AJT?
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At 4 months it was still holding up on customer's cars when I re-sealed them.
 
Scottwax said:
I've had no problems using AJT over Poli-Seal. I usually wait about 20 minutes after I buff off OPS before applying AJT.
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Typically, doesn't a sealant have problems bonding with a carnauba wax? I wonder what it is about Poli-Seal that it is the exception.
 
Dear Brent:



As for Poli-Seal having Carnauba, it should not cause bonding issues since the sealants in Opti-Seal will migrate to the paint and the carnauba will migrate to the surface on top of the sealants. Many professional detailers and enthusiasts have used Opti-Seal over Poli-Seal with great results and we hope that it will meet your satisfaction as well. Thanks again.



Best Regards,

David Ghodoussi, CEO

Optimum Polymer Technologies, Inc.





I didn't realize sealants and carnaubas migrated as he mentioned. He only mentioned Opti-Seal but I would assume all sealants would act the same.
 
bert31 said:
Dear Brent:



As for Poli-Seal having Carnauba, it should not cause bonding issues since the sealants in Opti-Seal will migrate to the paint and the carnauba will migrate to the surface on top of the sealants. Many professional detailers and enthusiasts have used Opti-Seal over Poli-Seal with great results and we hope that it will meet your satisfaction as well. Thanks again.



Best Regards,

David Ghodoussi, CEO

Optimum Polymer Technologies, Inc.





I didn't realize sealants and carnaubas migrated as he mentioned. He only mentioned Opti-Seal but I would assume all sealants would act the same.
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From that quote, I certaintly wouldnt assume hes speaking of ALL sealants, just the sealants in OS. OS works great over OPS.
 
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