My new Porsche Carrera S

erik7 said:
Sweet, black is going to be nice.



I LOVE the Cayman (at least the way it looks), but the problem with the Cayman is that it's right at the Z06 price point. I realize they are different cars, but the Z06 is dollar for dollar the best sports car out there, and it's tough to ignore.
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True, the Z06 is one hell of a car! At first, I was thinking of that car as I previously owned a '69 L-88 Vette which was one very sick car in the go-fast-as-hell department.



I like the reviews of the Cayman S and if you equip it with a Sport Chrono pack and add PCCB's you have one killer car that will corner like they quoted " The Cayman feels supernaturally responsive, as if the mechanical package were shrink-wrapped around you" "It slashes through corners as if it were a hologram from Gran Turismo 4." Get the Sport Chrono package and it will lap as fast as a stock 911S and yet cost less than a stock Carrera. Add PCCB's and you have the best mid-engine sport car that will out-corner just about everything else.



The Z06 is blasing fast, handles well, but just seems cheap in the interior department. Besides, everyone is trying to out pace a 911 at the 'Ring' and the Z06 made one very quick lap there, but it took suspension modifications, engine re-mapping and a very skilled driver to lap as close to a Carrera GT. See this article in Winding Road "Fast, yes. Fun, sure. But if you're considering the Z06 — and it's not about the money — might we also suggest the Ferrari F430, Dodge Viper SRT10, Porsche Carrera S, and Mitsubishi Evo IX MR. Now which would you choose?"Winding Road Z06



Here's another quote from Winding Road "Unfortunately, a massive motor is about all the Corvette has. Though its chassis and steering are competent and supercar-bothering

grip is on tap, by comparison with the Carrera the Z06’s complete lack of feel seems terribly uninvolving. The Z06

is for engine people, the Carrera for chassis people, but in the end, for me, Porsche still makes the more coherent package."





The Z06 for the buck is hands down a great car for what you pay! For the money you can't go wrong.



It boils down to do you want to go fast straight and have moderate cornering or do you want to slash through corners?



Porsche was so concerned about the Cayman eating into 911 profits, they de-tuned it so to speak. The Cayman gets 911 heads, 911S vario-cam. In time, with a good ECU re-map, this thing could go fast as hell!



I just wish the X51 package (Power Kit) wasn't so damn expensive! I'll wait to see what shows up in ECU re-mappings and other tricks as the 3.8 engine is still young. Let's also hope I do not get a RMS failure as some of the 3.6 has. RMS=Rear Main Seal. Early 3.6 engines were effected by this.



I asked the dealer to have Porsche install Michellin PS/2's instead of some of the other tires I see they come with. I'm also trying to get them to get pictures of it as it's being built! :think2



Aril/May just can't get here quick enough! I may have to go back to the dealer and play with that 911S that has the Sport Exhaust just to hear it! If I get a good dry day, I'm off to drive it again! Demo car does not have PCCB's or short shifter, but who cares now? :woot2:



I'll kick myself for getting black, but Porsche black just looks so nice! Now to keep all the crap off it! :waxing:



I promise as soon as I hear more as to shipment or build and can post pics, you know I'll have them up!!



Regards,

Deanski
 
Congrats!!! What a way to treat yourself, but thats a long wait until it comes in. THe Cyman is sweety and all but I built one online and it totaled nearly $88k, for that money (OK well close anyway) I'd surely go for the 911!
 
How much did they require for deposit? Out of curiosity, do these engines have variable valve timing? How is the quicker throttle response achieved in sport mode?
 
Its probably a similar "drive by wire" system as my M3 has. The sport mode in the M3 does the same thing, but it does it basically by opening the throttle blade further per defined pedal travel. Maybe in the POrsche it might actually change cam or igintion timing, fuel curves, etc?
 
Casebrius said:
How much did they require for deposit? Out of curiosity, do these engines have variable valve timing? How is the quicker throttle response achieved in sport mode?
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Deposit: 2K to hold aquisition date and 4K for order.



3.8 engine has VVT or Vario-Cam.



Sport mode, re-adjust engine mapping, throddle responce, opens sport exhaust, intake resonator changes. Much quicker thoddle responce in sport mode! Pretty much everything starts to change in sport mode when selected. You an fel the idle change as well, feels like someone put a big-block engine in the back as it starts to vibrate like one with a steep camshaft. Nice effect!!



Regards,

Deanski
 
I have never heard of Winding Road, I'll give it a read through, thanks for the link.



The interior for the Vette has been the long stumbling block for most would be owners. But if you want a car that will go balls out, has tons of grip, and can be lethal on the track, and save yourself a lot of coin, the Z06 is for you.



Interesting that they would compare the Z06 to an Evo. The Evo is less of a car inside than the Vette, but obviously is half the price too. From what I have read, the Evo would not be anywhere near the Z06 on a track, but maybe I haven't found the right article!!



C&D said the Z06 is a great car, but it can be a handful and the chassis is no where near buttoned down like the Porsches (any current Porsche!). But in the hands of a very competent driver, it's going to be tough to beat.



I have to tell you, I have no idea how you got through all options. I went to the Porsche site and tried to build one. I know Porsches always have a lot of options, but I was blown away. It would take forever just for me to learn what ever little thing did or looked like. I loved the Aero kit though, LOVE IT!! This is going to be one exciting wait.
 
Congratulations looking forward to pics. Black was an excellent choice, when it all cleaned up and sparkly with reflections galore, you won't regret it. :drool:
 
Now if only April was here :D



Scott has first ride too! Hell, if you got here drive it yourself!



Regards,

Deanski[/QUOTE]



I have TEN DOLLARS pledged to the "SEND SCOTTWAX TO CT. DRIVE". Got to get this started early so as to take advantage of super saver ticket prices.



That is awful big hearted of you Deanski!! :2thumbs:
 
cwcad said:
Now if only April was here :D



Scott has first ride too! Hell, if you got here drive it yourself!



Regards,

Deanski
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I have TEN DOLLARS pledged to the "SEND SCOTTWAX TO CT. DRIVE". Got to get this started early so as to take advantage of super saver ticket prices.



That is awful big hearted of you Deanski!! :2thumbs:[/QUOTE]



Hey, how often does one get a chance to drive such a sick looking and performing car?



I'm sure there'll be a line for this one! :chuckle:



As for trying to spec out a car on Porsche website, it CAN be a pain, but if you think German, the website makes sence. Love the 3D version! You can see it upload the Aero kit, PCCB's and colored wheel center crests!! Very nice touch! On a 360 view of the cockpit, you can view all angles and with the yellow belts, full back interior it looks sharp. If I didn't get PCCB's, I would have gone with red seatbelts to match the std calipers.



I was really going for a Z06, but then after seeing the new 997's and driving one, it made more sence. Sure, the 997 C2S don't have gobs of HP, but then again, I like to cut corners tight and the 997 just does it so well. I did drive a Z06 in Atlantic City, NJ (largest Z06 dealer) and found it wild as hell! Reminded me of my L-88! Massive torque! You'll peel the tread off tires it's got that much! Just didn't like the stearing. Not as sharp as a Porsche, but still damn good. Best I've felt in ANY Vette! It felt a bit heavy. The Z06 sure isn't though! It's a very light car for what it has.



If you like lots and I mean lots of torque, fast take-off and very good handling, the Z06 is a great buy! Add a Blue Devil engine and watch out! Z06 is one fine car!



Regards,

Deanski







Regards,

Deanski
 
I live about 50 minutes from Kerbeck. I have only been by there once though.



The Porsche site makes sense, just that there are a TON of options. And I'm not a Porsche afficianado so it takes me a bit to get through them all and what they all actually do or add to the car. I agree though, there 3D Shockwave builder is great.



I priced out a Cayman. I got up to $77,xxx with how I would want the car configured. I'm still a few years (hopefully only a few) before I can afford this type of car and feel ok with myself!!! :)



If I could afford one right now, having that car be 12 grand more than a Z06 is nothing to sneeze at. I would definitely have to drive both and see. I'm not a huge hp guy, I'm more of a nimble car guy (I do have an S2000!), so the power wouldn't be the main selling point for me. It's good to dream!
 
I have 2004. Great car and best of luck with it. However, did you listen to the radio before you order the upgrade. I have it and it a waste of 1,300.



Again enjoy - I also have black on black- although not quite a fancy as the one you order.
 
Deanski, Its nice to see a person that actually knows his vehicle. Most Porsche owners that I know dont know a thing about the car but "you put the gas in here" and "You put the key here" Looks like you did your homework.



Congratulations...You deserve that car!





P.S. The next few months will be the longest months of your life!
 
Fskof said:
Deanski, Its nice to see a person that actually knows his vehicle. Most Porsche owners that I know dont know a thing about the car but "you put the gas in here" and "You put the key here" Looks like you did your homework.



Congratulations...You deserve that car!





P.S. The next few months will be the longest months of your life!
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Man, you got that right! It WILL be one long wait!



When I spec'd the car, I wanted all high performance items, a few comfort items. It just blows that the power kit was $16K :sadpace: The PCCB's cost $8K, but worth the weight savings and stopping power while on a track. I had to have the adaptive sport seats, they feel much better more hugging w/o going to a full race seat.



I listened to the Bose, maybe not a nice as the Mark Levensen I had in the SC430, but I didn't get a chance to tweak it as I was listening to it in a demo car.



Now, the question: What LSP? Zaino, FMJ, Klasse, EX-P, etc and or top with Souveran!



Luck for me the dealer has a high end detailer who is as anal as I am and I've seen his work. I'll be dropping off some Menzerna P085RD and some of their glaze, then the LSP.



Once polished, the Armorglove film will be put on, then the LSP's go on. Once all done and I go and accept delivery, go over the car with the dealer etc... it then gets loaded in a trailer and shipped to my condo for the big event! Party, and sounds of a flat six revving with the sport exhaust while everyone has a good time and I stand there with a big grin on my face! :D :grinno:



The wait is killing me! I still have yet to hear when it goes into production!



Next, I'm trying to locate screens to cover the openings in the Aero Kit to protect the radiators.



Regards,

Deanski
 
Coat it with a few layers of Z2-PRO topped with Z8!!:D:D



Although, something like VM topped with Souveran would also look killer.



It will all come down to prep.



It should be the best detail you've ever done in your life!:)
 
I'd go with RMG/YCW/CMW/NB(if metallic) or Souveran if flat. Sounds like a lot but the RMG and YCW really make a difference on the darker colors, and I suspect you will be giving the paint plenty of TLC, so topping with a carnauba should not be a big deal.



This combination has blown me away on my dark blue metallic GTO (I'm using the Natty's Blue over CMW). It's the best of all worlds... deep, reflective, glossy, metallic pop, you name it.



If you really want to use a sealant, I'd go with either Z2Pro finished off with Z8 or EX-P topped with Natty's Blue.
 
Deanski, nice options. You don’t see many people put up the money for he PCCB’s. Do you have your first DE scheduled yet?



As for your fear of an RMS…I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there have been reported RMS leaks in the 3.8 (see the 997 forum over at Rennlist). The 3.8 is still derived from the M96/01-03 engine block. Only the Turbo, GT2 and GT3 use the block derived from the air cooled cars. However, the incident level seems to be down with the new RMS derived from the Cayenne.



The 997 Carrera S is an awesome car. It has really bumped up the performance envelope over the base Carrera so it will be interesting to see what the GT3 brings to the table when it comes. I only really have 2 complaints about the Carrera S….1 no dry sump lubrication and 2 no option to spec. the car without PASM.



The Cayman S is a very interesting car and very likely the replacement for my 996 depending on my driving impressions. It is unfortunate that Porsche has elected to handicap it to protect the performance of the base 911. Unfortunately in my experience with modern Porsche the cost to increase the power from the aftermarket will be dramatic. The normal fixes such as headers, exhaust, intakes, ECU remaps etc. have all been very pricey and not yielded much if any gains in normally aspirated Porsches, since about the mid 90’s. The only alternative has been engine swaps (in the Boxsters) and superchargers and turbo charges in the 911 (both expensive).
 
bet993 said:
I only really have 2 complaints about the Carrera S….1 no dry sump lubrication and 2 not option to spec. the car without PASM.
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Well, on number 1 it DOES have dry sump lubrication and on number 2 you're right and no Euro Sport suspension. This '06 997 does use dry sump and no dipstick, all electronic.



Yea, the GT3 should be one sick car along with the release of the Turbo.



Not sure what you ment by "DE" schedule.



Hopefully, production starts February. Late April or early May delivery.



Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed on not getting the RMS failure.



Thanks and have a Merry Christmas.



Regards,

Deanski
 
Deanski said:
Well, on number 1 it DOES have dry sump lubrication and on number 2 you're right and no Euro Sport suspension. This '06 997 does use dry sump and no dipstick, all electronic.
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All the M96/01-03 (and what ever designation they are using for the 997) engines use what Porsche markets as an “integrated dry sump� lubrication system. However, if you research this you will find it is not a classic dry sump lubrication system like that used in the air cooled cars or the water cooled M96/70 engines of the Turbo, GT2 or GT3 (all use true dry sump lubrication) or the current vette for that matter. The “integrated dry sump� system has gone through some changes in its life and is better now than the first versions. The interesting thing will be to see if Porsche uses it in the Turbo, GT3 and GT2 (if there is one).



The truth is a dry sump system is overkill for 98% of the drivers 98% of the time (including myself). It was just that the dry sump system was a true motorsports application on a road car and provided a link to the racing history of Porsche. Also as a Porsche fanatic it is somewhat disturbing to watch the 911 continue to slide more and more into the road GT category and further away from the cars that Porsche races on the track.



The Carrera S is an absolutely awesome car and I am jealous :D I look forward to the pictures. Just remember to drive it like you stole it and hit that rev limiter often (after the break in period of course). Nothing is better than hearing that flat six scream along at 7000 rpm.



Happy Holidays.
 
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