My finishing pad review

Todd@RUPES

Just a regular guy
Here is my review of finishing pads that we commonly use on this forum. It is based on personal experience and opinion, as I don't intend it to be (nor will I argue for it to be) the end all or even factual. I get so many PM's with questions regarding my product selection and choice, that maybe this can help some people out.



I have ranked them in order, from my favorite on down. I should say for the most part I use and enjoy all of the finishing pads (there isn't really but one bad one IMO, and its not that the pad is bad, it just doesn't work as much), so when it comes to this particular category, you cannot go wrong.



1) Meguiar's Solo Finishing Pad- In my experience with this pad, I have nothing to say about it that is negative. So far it hasn't acted up on any paint, it runs cool, and it finishes down hologram free on all paints so far. It also works equally well with water and traditional based polishes, glazes, aio's, and sealants.



Pro's: Works with everything on everything. Never "grabs" at the paint

Con's: None so to speak.

Conclusion: The best one I have in my bag.



2) 3M UltraFina Finishing Pad- The softest feeling of the bunch, and extremely fine, the UF pad is the least aggressive pad I have. It has a knack for finishing the most finicky paints hologram free. It works well with all finishing polishes, glazes, aio's, and has never been used to apply a sealant. I have had one experience (in over 50 cars) of it acting up on very soft paint, by grabbing. I switched to the Meg's Solo pad, which did not grab at, (which is why it is number one)



Pro's: Extremely soft and great on softer paint.

Con's: Limited size in the USA, expensive

Conclusion: Accept for grabbing on paint once, the UF pad has been flawless on all paint types. But so has the Meg's Solo pad. Given the firmness and traditional style of the Meg's pad (the UF pad is waffle style, which I don't like as much) pad over this pad which is why Solo is #1.



3) Lake Country Gray Finishing Pad- The Gray pad is slightly firmer than the LC blue pad, and this makes it much more versitle as it never "grabs" at the paint. The gray pad breaks polishes down quickly, and the firmness of the pad allows it too work with sharper abrasive finishing polishes on most paint conditions. However, the gray pad can leave very light hologramming on some of the softer paints we work on (Ferrari, Maserati, Infiniti).



Pro's: Works extremely well on 90 percent of the cars. Nice finish, and tehe stiffness of the pad give a good "feel" between the rotary and paint.

Con's: Works extremely well on 90 percent of the cars. Leaves holograms on extremely soft paint.

Conclusion: Probably the first pad out of my bad because it works so well on so many paints. (I am slowly replacing this pad with the Meguiars Solo, but I will keep one or two on hand. Killer on Porsche paint).



4) 3M Waffle Finishing Pad (Black)- A nice finishing pad that is slightly stiffer than the UltraFina pad. The top 4 are so close, IMO, that you cannot go wrong with any of them.



Pro's: Nice even application and smooth feel.

Con's: Can get a little grabby on soft paint with sharper abbrasive polishes. Large size limits usefulness with AIO's and sealants.

Conclusion: Great pad, just a shade shy of the top 3.



5) Lake Country Blue Foam- Great finishing pad on middle of the road paints. On soft paint (esp. Porsche and Maserati) this pad can get grabby in high humidity. On harder paints, its very soft construction requires a little bit of pressure to work sharper abbrasive polishes into the paint.



Pro's: Very soft construction allows pad to work well in tighter areas and over curved surface. Many sizes and types available (4 inch, 5 inch, 5.5 inch, 6 inch, 6.5 inch, 7.5 inch and 8.5 inch)/ (Beveled, Standard, CCS).

Con's: Very soft construction allows makes polishes extrememly soft paint grabby and harder paint very time consuming.

Conclusion: Great pad for most paint. Very soft and safe.



6) Meguiars 9006 Finish Pad- A nice, soft pad that finishes pretty well on most paints.



Pro's: Very soft and forgiving, though limited in size (6 inch or 8 inch) and out gunned in this contest. The Meguiars Finish Pad works extremely well with glazes, AIO's, and sealants.

Con's: No outstanding problems, just not quite as nice as the others.

Conclusion: The work horse pad, it does its job quite well but doesn't the recognition of the others.



7) Edge White Foam (100ppi)- The only pad I really don't like. While it works well on most paints, it grabs all over the place on very soft paint and requires longer working times on harder paints. Very similar to the Blue CCS pads, but worse behaved on extreme paints, I really have no need for this pad. I also don't like the feel of the double sided pad's central backing plate, as the pads just seem to stiff.



Pro's: Does the job

Con's: Hologramming on softer paints (grabby as well). I feel like this pad is just too soft to be used.

Conclusion: Not for me.
 
Thanks for the review Todd, I am going to pickup a Meguiar's Solo Finishing Pad and give it a spin.



Just to be sure, this is the Meguiar's Solo Finishing Pad MG-WDFF7 on the right in black?



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a.k.a. Patrick- Weren't the backing issues only related to use on the PC (as opposed to the rotary)?



TH0001- Thanks for that great comparison, very informative!



When you say the older 9006 pad just isn't on par with the newer ones, what about is is inferior? Just wondering of you could put a finer point on your comments (as I have a bunch of the 9006s) as I also have the LC black/gray pads and I'm wondering what differences to expect between the two pads. I'm new to the finishing-by-rotary, just giving it a try to see if it'll replace my finishing-by-Cyclo.
 
Todd..you should also add in the new Sonus Red Finishing pad. Although its a 6 inch pad I find it to be steps ahead of the Lake Country and Megs.
 
Accumulator said:
a.k.a. Patrick- Weren't the backing issues only related to use on the PC (as opposed to the rotary)?



TH0001- Thanks for that great comparison, very informative!



When you say the older 9006 pad just isn't on par with the newer ones, what about is is inferior? Just wondering of you could put a finer point on your comments (as I have a bunch of the 9006s) as I also have the LC black/gray pads and I'm wondering what differences to expect between the two pads. I'm new to the finishing-by-rotary, just giving it a try to see if it'll replace my finishing-by-Cyclo.



Great question regarding the 9006 pads. It IS hard to put a finger on, because these pads do everything like a work horse. They don't skip, hope, grab, they just work... I have had light hologramming on a couple cars back when I used Meguiars polishes with a rotary, but then again, it could have been the polishes. Honestly, it could be that they are just plane jane pads and lack the "coolness" of a CCS or waffleweave... :confused:





Also, the problem could be that I only have the 9006 pad (6 inch) and prefer to work with larger sizes. The blue finishes great on most polishes, just gets a little grabby on softer paint. I prefer the gray in most situations, but I know others like Rydawg prefer the blue.
 
Carbon Blue said:
nice review! This may seem like a dumb question but do megs pads need to be used with megs backing plates?



No such thing as a dumb question, IMO. Meg's pads work fine with all backing plates, provided you have the right size...



detaildoc said:
Nice review. Have you ever tried the LC red pad? It is super soft.



No, it is on my list. I don't always feel softer is better as it can lead to paint grabbing on sharper finishing polishes, so I think its a fine line between softer and to soft. So far Meguiars' has found the best comprimise, IMO.



Pats300zx said:
Todd..you should also add in the new Sonus Red Finishing pad. Although its a 6 inch pad I find it to be steps ahead of the Lake Country and Megs.



I haven't heard of it. I know none of the pad makers actually make the foam. It is all imported, then cut by the maker. I wonder if its the same foam as Lake Country's? I would like to try it though....



Also, thanks guys for kind words! I should add that these reviews are by rotary...
 
TH0001 said:
Great question regarding the 9006 pads. It IS hard to put a finger on, because these pads do everything like a work horse. They don't skip, hope, grab, they just work... I have had light hologramming on a couple cars back when I used Meguiars polishes with a rotary, but then again, it could have been the polishes. Honestly, it could be that they are just plane jane pads and lack the "coolness" of a CCS or waffleweave... :confused:





Also, the problem could be that I only have the 9006 pad (6 inch) and prefer to work with larger sizes. The blue finishes great on most polishes, just gets a little grabby on softer paint. I prefer the gray in most situations, but I know others like Rydawg prefer the blue.





all of meg's foam pads are now manufactured by american buffing. their older pads were manufactured by another company, the name escapes me at the moment but it was neither LC or SM Arnold.
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
Did Megs ever fix their backing issues?



Yeah, about 2-3 years ago. I can't even remember the last time I had a backing issue with a Meguiars pad.



Nice review, Todd. I've been using the Ultrafina pad with Ultrafina SE with excellent results. When I finally get down to my Meguiars distributor to pick up some #105, I'm going to get some of the Solo pads.



I'd also add that the blue Soft Edge polishing pad (which is actually pretty soft) so far has finished down hologram free every time I've used it with Poli-Seal.



Also, I've found that Meguiars #83 with a yellow Meguiars polishing pad finishes down 95%+ hologram free on harder paints (I work in at 1400-1500 rpm and finish out at 1000 rpm). Have you noticed this as well?
 
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