Multi-car advice

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ljorges

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Hello guys,
Just introduced myself in the forums and am anxious to get some experienced advice.
I have a 2004 Black Nissan Maxima (wife's DD) lots of swirls and oxidation
A 2007 FJ Cruiser black (my DD) does have some swirls and oxidation
Then my baby, a 2003 Corvette Anniversary Edition Convertible with anniversary red paint. Couple swirls but paint is pretty deep and glossy looking.

So, I just bought a Griot's Garage 6" polisher and it already has the backing plate.

I don't have any pads or product. I've been doing some research and Megs 105/205, Mazerna and Wolfgang Swirl Remover kit show up a lot.

Most of the work will be done on the two daily drivers cause they need it. But I will want to maintain the vettes' appearance as well.

Is there a simple and efficient product line that I can use across all three vehicles to get really good results? I tend to ask a lot of questions and do my research before purchasing anything because I like to get the most bang for my buck.

Thanks,
Les
 
I've been using Poorboys World products on all my details for many years. Any of the cars you've mentioned will benefit from his line.

Products
SSR 2.5
SSR 1 or sub in P-w-C
Black hole glaze
EX-P
Nattys red paste wax


on the pads your going to need three to start

Cutting, polishing and finishing. I like the lake country pads the best;)
 
Beemerboy said:
I've been using Poorboys World products on all my details for many years. Any of the cars you've mentioned will benefit from his line.

Products
SSR 2.5
SSR 1 or sub in P-w-C
Black hole glaze
EX-P
Nattys red paste wax


on the pads your going to need three to start

Cutting, polishing and finishing. I like the lake country pads the best;)
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Would those be the orange, white and blue pads?
Les
 
IMO you can't go wrong Megs 105/205 (non diminishing abrasives) or Menzerna polishes (diminishing abrasives). Both are high quality lines. For the most part the Wolfgang line is a re-bottled Menzerna product at a higher price. I personally use Megs 105/205 on a more regular basis but also have Menz 85rd as my finishing polish.
 
Beemerboy said:
I've been using Poorboys World products on all my details for many years. Any of the cars you've mentioned will benefit from his line.

Products
SSR 2.5
SSR 1 or sub in P-w-C
Black hole glaze
EX-P
Nattys red paste wax


on the pads your going to need three to start

Cutting, polishing and finishing. I like the lake country pads the best;)
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second this.... but X3 on the last two pads you should always have extra polishing and finishing pads
 
Not sure of your experience, but Meg's Microfiber system would be a good choice also and would take care of 90% of what most people need. For many people Meg's 105 is more aggressive than needed and can be finicky under certain conditions. I personally like the Menzerna line, especially for finishing black cars. For the LC pads an orange, white and a red or blue should cover your needs, but I recommend having a couple. (2 orange, 2 white, 1 red, 1 blue)
 
dwgcmc said:
Not sure of your experience, but Meg's Microfiber system would be a good choice also and would take care of 90% of what most people need. For many people Meg's 105 is more aggressive than needed and can be finicky under certain conditions. I personally like the Menzerna line, especially for finishing black cars. For the LC pads an orange, white and a red or blue should cover your needs, but I recommend having a couple. (2 orange, 2 white, 1 red, 1 blue)
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No experience other than pushing around a wax spreader from Sears. So with the Menzerna line - what products and what order?

I know that products are personal opinions but I'm sure that if enough people chime in - we will most likely see a pattern of usage.

You guys have been great. Thanks!!!:yourrock

Thanks,
Les
 
Beemerboy said:
I've been using Poorboys World products on all my details for many years. Any of the cars you've mentioned will benefit from his line.

Products
SSR 2.5
SSR 1 or sub in P-w-C
Black hole glaze
EX-P
Nattys red paste wax



Is that the order you would use the products? Of course after a wash and claying.

Les
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Yes you can use them in this order. GREAT products by the way!!!!! Very easy to use and produce amazing results. I would also recommend Spray and Wipe. It is very good for a clay lubricant and quick detailer.

Products
SSR 2.5
SSR 1 or sub in P-w-C
Black hole glaze
EX-P
Nattys red paste wax
 
on a side note how u like the FJ Cruiser...i just dont like the design..def an offroader but just the xterior and interior design is not good..how much MPG u get on ur FJ Cruiser..
 
polisher said:
on a side note how u like the FJ Cruiser...i just dont like the design..def an offroader but just the xterior and interior design is not good..how much MPG u get on ur FJ Cruiser..
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I love my FJ. Gas mileage is probably average 19 mpg. I work 8 minutes from the house so tank of gas last awhile - unless the wifey has weekend plans.

It's funny, people either love or hate the exterior. I like its look and its stance. The interior is a bit spartan but works for me. I've taken it off road maybe four times. It was great during the blizzard we had in Chicago.

Les
 
Blue is recommended for darker colors. RED is used for lighter colors. In my opinion I like BLUE overall if I had to choose one, even thou I have both and use both often :). I find that BLUE tends to hide swirls and minor imperfections a tad better. BLUE also smells so yummy!!!!!
 
I was looking at the Lake Countrys CCS dual action 6.5 pads
Would the Orange light cutting foam pad, white polishing foam pad and the blue finessing foam pad work for the above described system?

What product would go on which pads?

Les
 
ljorges;333951So with the Menzerna line - what products and what order?

I know that products are personal opinions but I'm sure that if enough people chime in - we will most likely see a pattern of usage.
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The paint and your method will dictate the exact combo. If you want to cover all your bases with just Menzerna I would recommend getting Power Gloss(POs34a), Power Finish(PO203) and Final Polish/Micro Finish(PO85rd).

Power Gloss is not quite aggressive as Meg's 105 but dusts less and has a longer working time, though that can be negated by the fact that it is a diminishing abrasive. Use this on an LC orange pad for heavy correction of deep swirls and/or water etching. A note, especially for black cars: don't try to remove every scratch. You will drive yourself nuts and can remove too much clear coat. With experience you will be able to tell what you can and can't do safely.

Power Finish will take care of most light marring caused by washing when used on an LC orange pad. I have had great success using this combo for single stage correction, even on black cars, by using light pressure on the final couple of passes. It doesn't create the perfect finish, but the improvement is usually enough to impress the customers on their daily drivers at a reasonable price. If you use it to follow up the power gloss it will finish down better with a LC white pad.

For an outstanding finish use 85rd on a LC white or black pad. (Many argue for the black pad for this. I find I get the same results in less time with the white pad using lighter pressure unless the paint is super soft.)

You may find through some experimentation that you can skip straight from the Power Gloss to 85rd and get the same results. It will take a little more time with the 85rd, but the time saved by skipping a step more than makes up for it.

You can then go on to any LSP you choose. I often opt to wipe down with IPA to remove any polishing oils to be sure of a good bond to the paint for longer durability for those customers I don't expect to see again for a while.

I recommend 85rd for finishing, regardless of what cutting polishes you use. My most common combination is Meg's 105 followed by 85rd. Quick, effective and great finish.
 
Always try the least argresive method first.

SSR1 with a polishing pad - speed 6.
BH finishing pad - speed 1-2.
EX-P - by hand.
Nattys blue - by hand.

Do a 1 foot test section first and If the SSR1 does not do a great job of removing the imperfections then follow this step.

SSR2.5 light cut pad - speed 6.
SSR1 Finishing pad - speed 4.5.
BH finishing pad - speed 1-2.
EX-P - by hand.
Nattys blue - by hand.

Remember to take your time and do small sections at a time. Have fun with it :).
 
Since your Corvette is in decent shape. I would reccommend Polish with Carnauba BLUE. Light polish, hides pretty good and leaves behind a nice coat of carnauba wax. BTW do NOT eat Poorboys world products because they smell soo good!!! :)
 
Just placed order for the Poorboy products. Wish me luck. I'll post up when I attempt to work on my wife's car.
Les
 
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