Missouri Car Dealership Gives Away an AK47 with Each Truck Purchase!

I see both your points, and really can't fault you or anyone else for having that opinion. I just think a little differently on it because I really don't care too much for those types of weapons.

Comparing guns and cars are not the same. One is a mode of transportation and the other is made with the intended purpose of shooting something. Guns are a tool of death. They are intended to shoot and kill something at the opposite end of the barrel. Therefore, they demand a little bit more scrutiny and respect.
 
. I think it's any American's Constitutionally given right to own a gun within reason, however that "within reason" part gets kind of tricky..

this is the inherent problem ...more to follow ...first things first :huh:

I was going to stay out of this one because I'm sure most everyone (Steve for instance) thinks I'm crazy when it comes to the gun thing anyway.

so you need to drag me into this :wall :notme:

ok ... here we go again ...btw..where's Ron and Bart? ...

When the second amendment was written, you would have been a minority if you didn't own some type of gun. You were either a woman, vegetarian, or animal lover if you didn't own at least a rifle for hunting your dinner or you were very hungry and skinny :inspector: Times change and hopefully we are evolving as a human race and the necessity not to hunt for our meals ( other than fighting some of the people in line at Costco or BJ's) the need has changed, especially in urban environments. For those who live in areas that can support using a riffle or gun for sport, by all means have a good time :chairdance. For those people who either work in areas or perform jobs that require security, by all means own a gun ... for the other hundred million or more that don't, they would like to know that the weapons that are in our country be accountable and be owned by responsible people. No where in the bill of rights does it give you the right to own a car, but if you own one and want to drive it, there is not a state in this country where you can drive one without having to register it. So why not guns?
Probably about the same number of them around.
As far as the assault weopons, again , doesn't that really depend where you live? Can you imagine a guy in the South Bronx housing complex with one?

jumping down off the box :redcard: :surrender:howdy
 
I knew you were here Steve.

And I knew you'd jump on this :cool:

I myself have no use for an ak47 at all. My point to this thread is that I liked this guys idea and candor.

He did put her in her place. Also the favt taht he sold more vehicles when he gave away hand guns, shows that there are people that agree.

Just for the record, I am a hand gun person myself.
 
Comparing guns and cars are not the same.

Absolutely correct, the reason I made the comparison was simply to bring up the correlation that we are free to choose.

One is a mode of transportation and the other is made with the intended purpose of shooting something. Guns are a tool of death. They are intended to shoot and kill something at the opposite end of the barrel. Therefore, they demand a little bit more scrutiny and respect.

This too, is where we see things differently. I would say; Guns can be a tool of death. They are intended to shoot at targets and have the potential to kill something if the situation is required.

I mentioned earlier that I build guns. None of the guns that I build are intended to kill anything. They are pretty paper punchers. It's my hope that this is all they will ever be.
 
You are correct, I don't hunt but I have no problem with people that do. Fundamentally, I guess my hope is that the game is used for food rather than simply for sport. But I'm not the judge or jury for those that choose simply sport. Perhaps I can clarify what I'm saying with respect to the 2nd Amendment evaporating. It has not, though it has been under many attacks. We have leaders all around us that believe that they know what is better for us than we do. An example of it being under attack, one need look no further than D.C. or Chicago, these cities deny their citizens of the rights others enjoy under the 2nd Amendment.

When good conscientious gun owners are willing to "give a little" for lack of a better phrase, the 2nd Amendment wobbles. If we as gun owners think that it's O.K. for a person or group of persons to tell us what we can own and what we can't own I believe we sell out just the slightest bit and we stand on shaky ground. I don't believe in the term "assault weapon" because no one I know can tell me what that is. One can be assaulted with a BB gun, Paint Ball gun, AK 47 or 12 guage shot gun. If I thought it were O.K. to regulate "assault weapons" at least as I have described them, there would be no guns. I believe that is exactly what the anti-gun crowd tries to do to us.

This same group of people tries to make us believe that no well reasoned person has any use for a particular weapon (remember I'm one of those evil people who owns a .50 caliber BMG), therefore we should outlaw this particular weapon. Well since no one has need of a .50, then it's O.K. for one to reason that no one has need for an AK 47. If you are a legal gun owner and use your firearm responsibly, who am I to tell you which you can own? It's none of my business. This is a slippery slope and once the ground is given up it is almost impossible to recover that's where I see the correlation in the 2nd Amendment evaporating. It is constantly under attack but the people don't tell you that this is what they are doing.

The 2nd Amendment wasn't written so that we can only own sporting rifles in fact that wasn't its intent at all. It was written so that citizens have the ability to protect themselves from individuals or groups of people, even governments. After all it was penned shortly after we as a people had just done so. I didn't take the "within reason" comment to mean people but rather what type of weapon I can own. Certainly I believe that felons, insane, mentally unstable persons should not carry/own weapons. I acknowledge the we don't have well defined rules to determine the status of some of these people. I hope this better explains my mindset.

Always ate what we killed. I believe in it. In fact I quit duck hunting primarily because I got tired of trying to prepare it in a fashion that was enjoyable to consume. You wouldn't believe how many ways I tried to prepare it, and how much duck my loving wife choked down with me. In Texas you can get fined for not retrieving your downed game. That doesn't guarantee it is eaten, but at least it'll cost you if you try and down a bird and don't make an effort to retrieve. I heard a great story about this a couple of weeks ago from a friend of mine.

I'm not familiar with the D.C. (do we have gun rules here? Troy?) or Chicago firearms rules. Outta sight...outta mind, I guess.

I understand and agree the reasoning behind the fact that any weapon of any caliber can be used to assault someone (though the BB gun might be a stretch). I never really looked closely at the language in the assault weapon ban, because it had little affect on me, except for the magazine capacity issue. How do you feel about automatic weapons? Is that giving up ground?

Background checks don't bother me much, nor does the waiting period, though I purcashed the bulk of my weapons before the waiting period was in effect. I always walked out of the store or gun show with my new purchase. Registration gives me heartburn. Too many possible scenarios, none of which are good.

I think I've already shared my .50 cal story here once. I won't bring it up again.
 
For the record, I'll always defend your right to own any kind of weapon you want.

My point was, if you don't know what you're doing... through some formal training and consistent practice... please keep your Rambo self out of my neighborhood. And don't endanger your whole block, let alone your children, with a weapon designed for a third world infantry platoon.

I've got some NFA stuff but I know how to (more importantly, how NOT to) use it.

Consider this analogy... if you've never ridden a motorcycle or taken a training course, please don't ride down my street on your new Hyabusa.

I realize that I'm making the assumption that a gun owner who received his AK free from a car dealer may not be experienced in handling firearms.
 
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