Missing step in detailing....GLAZE

MDRX8 said:
Everyone likes to polish then wax or seal their car. But a step people forget is the use of a glaze. It will make your car shineyer and give it a boost. I like RED MOOSE GLAZE or MEG NO 7 Show Car Glaze before adding that coat of wax or sealant. What glaze do you like???????
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I'm with you buddy. Also use a glaze

Unlike lots of fixed and mobile detailers in my homeland, I remove all the swirls, not hide them using Menzerna to level and follow with a combination of anything from SONUS to DINITROL, DP, Wolfgang, Poorboys, Clearkote and more



Then I always finish with VM and or RMG and sometimes the yellow moose

These three are the best glazes I have come across as they actually remove minor imperfections permanently, not hide them and you can use them on paint, plastic, rubber seals and tires, vinyl etc and I don't seem to have any probs with all my sealants over them



have even removed scratches with VM by rotary and small defects by hand on acrylic hood and headlight protectors

One day I removed a huge, deep paint scuff on the rear door of a car with VM by hand

Was ten inches across (red paint with white scuff)

Took me a few minutes but saved me using a harsher polish and got no marks afterwards, even with firm pressure.



Have used farecla black top and 3M IHG in the past and simply don't cut it.

Lots of oils yes but very hard to apply and remove and can't use on anything else

For maximum bling effect, a glaze is recommended.
 
atticdog said:
isnt polish really the same as a glaze?

around here we tend to use polish meaning an abrasive but stuff we call glaze's like #7,#3,#81 are really pure polishes
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Technically, no, a polish is not the same as a glaze but different companies use different words to make things sound better. Zaino uses "polish" for their protectant, and others use "glaze" for polishes. The bottom line is if it is meant to be a filler with little to no abrasive polishing effect, then it's a glaze. On the other hand, if it has any amount of noticeable "cut" or abrasives to it, then it's a polish. I guess you can also call some things a polishing glaze, like #7 since it has both. A little confusing, but as long as you know what the product does, it really doesn't matter.
 
I think #7 is non abrasive, maybe i am wrong though.



I think #7 is pure Trade Secret. Meaning that when megs says something contains their trade secret polishing oils, i think it is just some #7 in the mixture.



Think about it, their trade secret stuff does everything #7 does, and if their trade secret stuff is so awesome(and it is), wouldnt a manufacturer find a way to sell "pure" "trade secret" polish in a bottle?



If #7 isnt "pure" "trade secret" then what is in #7 to make it not "pure" ? I cant think of anything, its a bottle of oil.
 
Imperial Hand Glaze should be used prior to waxing to enhance surface gloss and produce a deep, “wet look� finish. Imperial Hand Glaze is nonabrasive, clear coat safe, and contains no wax or silicones.



doesnt sounds like its intended to be a filler (which it might do also tho)
 
atticdog said:
Imperial Hand Glaze should be used prior to waxing to enhance surface gloss and produce a deep, “wet look� finish. Imperial Hand Glaze is nonabrasive, clear coat safe, and contains no wax or silicones.



doesnt sounds like its intended to be a filler (which it might do also tho)
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I like 3M IHG, a lot. I recently purchased Menzerna's FTG, but I like IHG better. I like glazes because I just don't like the idea of cutting into the clear coat everytime I use a polish.
 
When & if I glaze, the only products I reach for nowadays is Vanilla Moose & CG's Revive glaze/polish. I might order up some RMG just to try it out.
 
Like meguiars calls thier step 2 a pure polish, but mothers calls thiers a sealer and glaze but arn't thay both the same product?
 
JDookie said:
I'd rather get rid of the imperfections permanently than keep having them pop up after a while. Granted, in a jam, glazes can be a beautiful thing, but I'd still rather take my time and do it right.
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Yeah, but there's only so much clear you can remove. Unless you're using a paint thickness gauge or you know the paint's history, you can't really tell how much clear is left. Glazes are great for deep scratches and thin paint.



Mother's Sealer & Glaze for me!
 
I use glaze for its deepening effect, not filling.



On specialized jobs I'll use #7, but generally I'll go for Mothers S&G...its too easy to use and looks good.
 
Anybody using IHG oughta try Meg's #5 instead. I used them side-by-side and, well, the IHG hasn't left the shelf since. Oh, and IHG does some hiding or "filling", basically the same way some of the Meg's products do it- with sorta heavy oils. Check the ingredients of the IHG. Nothing abrasive in it, yet it makes minor marring "disappear". Said marring will *re-appear* if you then clean off the IHG.





Kool_ZX3 said:
Like meguiars calls thier step 2 a pure polish, but mothers calls thiers a sealer and glaze but arn't thay both the same product?
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Yeah they're basically the same thing. The different way manufacturers use words like "glaze", "polish", etc. can drive you nuts. The only way to really know what you're talking about is to discuss the specific product without regard for what its name might imply about it.
 
DennisH said:
I have a black street rod and if I going to a show or cruise-in I normally have to drive between 50 and 100 miles one way to get there (small town kansas and I don’t own a trailer). After getting there I normally clean the car up and not matter how careful I still get some swirls....
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I was interested to read this as my wife and I were just discussing this issue last night. I decided tht I won't show my XJS because I'd have to wipe it down and I know that I'd instill some kind of marring in the soft lacquer. If I *didn't* wipe it down I'd be the "guy with the dirty car". I decided that no way would I sacrifice any of my (already perilously thin) paint just so somebody else can appreciate my car...too bad since I'd really like to show it off.



Heh heh, you're in a different situation- if I had something like that hot rod of yours I'd just *have* to show it off :D But I sure sympathize with what you have to go through, not making it a "trailer queen" type of show car.
 
Accumulator said:
I was interested to read this as my wife and I were just discussing this issue last night. I decided tht I won't show my XJS because I'd have to wipe it down and I know that I'd instill some kind of marring in the soft lacquer. If I *didn't* wipe it down I'd be the "guy with the dirty car". I decided that no way would I sacrifice any of my (already perilously thin) paint just so somebody else can appreciate my car...too bad since I'd really like to show it off.



Heh heh, you're in a different situation- if I had something like that hot rod of yours I'd just *have* to show it off :D But I sure sympathize with what you have to go through, not making it a "trailer queen" type of show car.
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About 5 years ago I bought a 1958 Corvette that needed full body restoration, over the next couple years I put a wheel borrow load of money into this car in the intention of making it a trailer queen show car. I even purchased the enclosed trailer so it wouldn’t see the light of day coming home from the painters. Took another couple of months to finish the interior and detail the car out. One warm spring day I couldn’t resist any longer and decided just to drive the car around the block just once. Jump forward today – the car has not been on a trailer since it was brought home from the painters – 3500 miles since restoration – the first rock chip was the worst but they getting easier – some great memories – lots of trips to car shows and Dairy Queen for ice cream. Life to short and they are just cars so have fun with them. :dance
 
DennisH said:
About 5 years ago I bought a 1958 Corvette that needed full body restoration, over the next couple years I put a wheel borrow load of money into this car in the intention of making it a trailer queen show car. I even purchased the enclosed trailer so it wouldn’t see the light of day coming home from the painters. Took another couple of months to finish the interior and detail the car out. One warm spring day I couldn’t resist any longer and decided just to drive the car around the block just once. Jump forward today – the car has not been on a trailer since it was brought home from the painters – 3500 miles since restoration – the first rock chip was the worst but they getting easier – some great memories – lots of trips to car shows and Dairy Queen for ice cream. Life to short and they are just cars so have fun with them. :dance
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DennisH said:
the first rock chip was the worst but they getting easier..
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As the museum curator said- "real cars have stone chips". I actually have fond memories of the day in August '86 when the Jag got two serious chips on its hood, that was still a great day and the chips remind me of how nice it was- they're sorta like souvenirs, or maybe the automotive version of a tatoo. I never did touch them up.



And note that my S8 was *perfect* for years, as in better-than-showroom, and then I hit the deer with it anyhow :rolleyes:



– some great memories – lots of trips to car shows and Dairy Queen for ice cream. Life to short and they are just cars so have fun with them.
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Yeah, I definitely agree with what you posted, though that might sound funny given my previous post! I've used the Jag hard and taken it on some *long* trips. IMO cars are for driving. I just have this, uhm, *thing* about knowingly marring paint and, well, to be honest my idea of "fun with my cars" is sorta a private thing for me and my wife anyhow. Just can't see scratching it so some stranger will think it's clean. Good thing everyone doesn't feel the way I do or there wouldn't be any car shows! The folks in the Jag Club of Ohio are bugging me to start doing more with the XJS so we'll see...
 
Just feel like a kid again and put some of that Meg. #7 or your favorite on your machine and she'll shine!!! Alot of car shows have been won cause the these pure polishes (glaze). It has been great to read through this thread!
 
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