Menzerna vs Optimum lines for UDM

I don´t get it, how long working time do you guys want? If you are working outside I can buy the argument of more lubrication, but inside? No.



It takes just more time to break down the polish and more lubrication to wipe off. I want short but effective cutting with little residues.
 
porta said:
I don´t get it, how long working time do you guys want? If you are working outside I can buy the argument of more lubrication, but inside? No.



It takes just more time to break down the polish and more lubrication to wipe off. I want short but effective cutting with little residues.
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I agree 100%. Why spend 4 minutes per section to work a polish to get the same level of cut as you would when you could be working with Menzerna in the same section for 2-3 minutes? I used to think that the Optimum working times were nice, but these days they have become tedious.
 
Bigpoppa3346 said:
I agree 100%. Why spend 4 minutes per section to work a polish to get the same level of cut as you would when you could be working with Menzerna in the same section for 2-3 minutes? I used to think that the Optimum working times were nice, but these days they have become tedious.
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I guess i don't speak for everyone when i say i prefer a polish that has a long working time. you don't have to keep polishing with ohc or oc after the abrassives have broken down, you can remove wet polish with your mf, all you are doing after you have broken it down is polishing.
 
oh hell why not. ill chime in.



iv found op and oc to work very well on the PC. hypercompound OTOH has yeilded me better results with rotary polishing.



menzerna is also a wonderful product line. its like having a steady relationship with a mistress on the side. Optimum being my go to, daily product, but for those special occasions, Menzerna gets to take charge.



just my .02, hope it helped at all . . .
 
I guess there is no consensus, and since the Menzerna line's availability is spotty, I'll go ahead and invest in OC, OP, and the UDM and appropriate pads. Hopefully the Werkstatt products I have (Prime, AJT) will work well with the Optimum line.



Cheers,

HeavyB
 
Whats the big deal with long working time? I mean, their is better things to do then wait for the polish to break down properly. Thats why I almost crank up the rotary up to 2500rpm when I am finishing my jobs, just to break down the polish as fast as possible.
 
I have the old, and I have tried the new, Optimum line of polishes. They are great for beginners, as it takes forever to break-down the polish. But, for someone who gets paid, I desire a faster polish break-down. Hopefully when I get my Menzerna my wish will come true. Also please keep in mind that some, but not all Edge 2000 pad users have had pad skipping issues with SIP. I heard a great majority of the Menzerna line dusts like crazy, while with the Optimum line, I have NEVER had dusting issues, which is a big plus. Good luck!
 
Spoiledman, from page 1, thanks for the tip. Turns out I was using WAY too much product.



Do either Optimum or Menzerna have something that's not quite a compound but more aggressive than IP?
 
phamkl, glad you were able to get it to work. You cold step up the pad that you use with IP to get a bit more aggressive but there is nothing between IP/SIP and PG to my knowledge.
 
I don't think that optimum is up to the task on harder clear coats. My experience with an Audi was miserable using optimum compound and polish. On the other hand, I had excellent results with Menzerna SIP and 106FF using the same techniques. I guess autogeek is out of SIP, but I think you can still get it at detailers domain.
 
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