Menzerna PO106FF vs PO106FA, differences.

Changeling

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My intention is not to turn this into an argument on the best polishes. It is simply to find out the differences between the above two polishes. There has been some "reasoning" of the differences but somewhat vague with no experience in differences between the two.

If you have any knowledge I would certainly appreciate hearing about it.



Changeling
 
Forgot to add. Seems I do this a lot!



It is important for me to know if these polishes will really break down correctly with a PC. Since I know they were designed with the new Super hard clear coats in mind, therefore my concern if the PC will produce enough heat to accomplish the breakdown process.



Changeling
 
Menzerna PO106FF vs PO106FA, assuming you want to know the diffrances between the two... NOW not 100% but about 90-97% sure that they are one in the same the PO106FF is just the newer formula.



NOW I just used the PO106FF on my 03 mini cooper s with the PC and the the CCS green pad and all I have to say is this stuff is great I love it I used it on the 6 speed setting in spot (most of the car) and it gave me a SUPER SLICK SUPER GLOSSY resaults before my 5 layaers of FMJ which is also my fisrt time useing, I never, have used a product that went on SO easy, AND CAME OFF EVEN EASIER!!! I have yet to notice any white marks on my black trim or any thing WOW WOW AND WOW is all I have to say, the shine is amazing the beading is great and its SOOO slick.



I used the CCS Green pad for the PO106FF, and a red CCS pad for FMJ, and a handcoat with a supersoft applicatr I got from Menzerna FMJ

well I hope that helped let me know, anyone feel free to correct me...
 
PO106FA dusts less as I know. I used both and didn't find big differences. In my next detail I'll use both and I'll compare. Both are incredible finishing polishes, an amazing finish and enough cut to remove swirls in a soft-medium clear coat using them via rotary.
 
I have been using both today, less dusting with the FA and I find it to break down faster...but I am not realy sure. Had very little time to test beacuse we were in a hurry.

Same gloss.
 
porta said:
I have been using both today, less dusting with the FA and I find it to break down faster...but I am not realy sure. Had very little time to test beacuse we were in a hurry.

Same gloss.



Very difficult to say if one breaks down faster. I'll check the same in my next detail.

Regards my friend !!
 
velobard said:
Where have you found the FA version?



A good friend of mine (jgv) was in Automekanica and gave me a 106FA sample:



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Regards.
 
velobard said:
Where have you found the FA version?



That was my next question also, I haven't been able to find it on the Internet.

I sent an email to Menzerna from there web site which was in German! I used English, I don't speak German, so I don't know if I will get an answer or not.



I was under the impression that the PO106FA was the latest version of PO106FF, I could be wrong!:think2



Changeling
 
Well from my online search so far and the comments here, I'm getting the impression that FA isn't on the market yet. Does anyone have any insight on when it might be available??? Or for the matter, if it will even be sold in the US?
 
maybe it is the same as the Blackfire polish with the added lubricants...I do not think CMA adds any stuff to 106FF to make the blackfire here.....but never know...



Speculation here..



Menzerna makes the Blackfire polish for CMA..they may have seen a market for it and now make it under Menzerna's name also calling it 106FA



AL
 
AL-53 said:
maybe it is the same as the Blackfire polish with the added lubricants...I do not think CMA adds any stuff to 106FF to make the blackfire here.....but never know...



Speculation here..



Menzerna makes the Blackfire polish for CMA..they may have seen a market for it and now make it under Menzerna's name also calling it 106FA



AL





Kind of what I have in my mind. 106FA seems to claim the same benefits as BF SRC FP...added lubricants for workabiltiy and less dusting.



If it is the same thing, I'd doubt you'd see it sold wherever the BF is sold..similar to how JW and Carlack68 don't share any markets
 
AL-53 said:
maybe it is the same as the Blackfire polish with the added lubricants...I do not think CMA adds any stuff to 106FF to make the blackfire here.....but never know...



Speculation here..



Menzerna makes the Blackfire polish for CMA..they may have seen a market for it and now make it under Menzerna's name also calling it 106FA



AL



This is a new formula, they have been using this polish at a couple of Daimler/Chrysler factories. I didin´t see more lubrication in the FA then the PO106FF. Used them both today.
 
Well Porta it was a shot in the dark...some have said the blackfire seems no different than the 106FF even though it does contain some lube in it..



On the FF and FA if the cut is the same and gloss factor are also..wonder what the difference is...abrasive material maybe...



Oh Well ..we may have answers some day



Al
 
porta said:
I don´t think we will see it on the market soon, maybee a couple of months away?



I would just like to hear the differences.

It simply doesn't make any sense that they would come out with an alternative to PO106FF if there wasn't something pressing them into doing it.

In other words if the 106FF is working awesome, why would they feel compelled to spend the $$$ ( Not cheap) to develop 106FA for no reason, do you get my drift?



Changeling
 
The main reason behind PO106FA was to get less then the PO106FA.



Will try them hea on this week, but I know maesal is going to polish a Porsche 911 and test both of them, head on.



I am sure he will tell us his impressions.
 
PO106FF is a mighty impressive product, I am sure it could have achieved exactly the same result on the Megane as the FA did.



On medium hardness paint this really is a single step polish.
 
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