Meguiar's vs. Lake Country Pad Comparison Chart.

classofshine said:
Thanks for the graphic, never realized the HT crimson pad had that much cut, seems pretty high for what LC considers a finishing pad.
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I agree, I was pretty surprised to see that. Anyone tried using the crimson pad where they'd normally use the white pad, and get similar results?
 
Todd Helme said:
Lake Country has been an industry setter and leader when it comes to launching new and upgraded foams and it is interesting to see how many other companies switch their foams after LC continues to set the standard.
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There has been a lot of very positive feedback on the B&S pads compared to the LC (like B&S Yellow, Green).

B&S has not really changed their foams from what I have seen in at least 3 years so I am curious "who" is following Lake Country? Meguiars supposedly sources from Buff and Shine.
 
Paul S said:
On all of the LC offerings of various color pads , does cut vary from style to style ? ( flat , compressor etc. )
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Yes. I am actually working on an article (right now) about how the different characteristics of foam affect polishing performance.

On a rotary polisher the compressor pad may (with the harder foams) create more friction do the fact that the outer most surface is under tension and in theory should be firmer than the rest of the pad.

With convoluted designs (waffle, cross cut, Meg's solo, CCS) you are trading surface area for other features.

Ultimately, while each is going to have an effect on performance, in most cases the effect is small. It really comes down to what you feel like has the best feel. If your comfortable then you are going to produce the best results, which is going to trump any difference in theoretical performance. It's not the best car nor the best driver (and sometimes not the best driver in the best car) that wins the race. It is usually the driver who feels most comfortable and confident.
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
I just ordered a ton of constant pressure pads to use with my 3401! :rockon
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I thought you were done with that thing?:confused:


BTW, I tried out the yellow and green B&S pads. Very nice. The green pads are especially sweet, good polishing ability but finish great!
 
Garry Dean said:
Todd, where do the megs microfiber pads land on that chart?
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Its hard to say. For the most part, foam stays fairly constant regardless of the type of machine they are used on. They may slide up or down in aggressiveness but relative to other foams they stay the same.

Microfiber is designed and IME gets the best performance from a random orbital machine. They cut as much if not more than the most aggressive cutting pad and finish about as nice as an orange pad on a DA. The finishing microfiber has about as much cut as an orange pad but finishes about as nice as a finishing foam. They are just so polish dependent and so unique its hard to measure them. They are also tool specific.
 
Todd Helme said:

Ultimately, while each is going to have an effect on performance, in most cases the effect is small. It really comes down to what you feel like has the best feel. If your comfortable then you are going to produce the best results, which is going to trump any difference in theoretical performance. It's not the best car nor the best driver (and sometimes not the best driver in the best car) that wins the race. It is usually the driver who feels most comfortable and confident.
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I think this is a good analogy when you hear everything talking about the best. You can give "mediocre" product to an experienced detailer they can usually get equal or better results than some who has the "best" products such as pads, polishes, and polishers.
 
Todd Helme said:
Its hard to say. For the most part, foam stays fairly constant regardless of the type of machine they are used on. They may slide up or down in aggressiveness but relative to other foams they stay the same.

Microfiber is designed and IME gets the best performance from a random orbital machine. They cut as much if not more than the most aggressive cutting pad and finish about as nice as an orange pad on a DA. The finishing microfiber has about as much cut as an orange pad but finishes about as nice as a finishing foam. They are just so polish dependent and so unique its hard to measure them. They are also tool specific.
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Awesome, thanks!
 
Cool... Thanks for the chart, that will definitely come in handy.

I just picked up my 1st polisher, a Dewalt 443. Wasn't exactly what I wanted, but I got it cheap (*$50 like brand new) at a local pawn shop.

I read it can be slightly modified to perform decently, and plan to get some LC CSS 6.5" pads later this week. As a newbie I was gonna go with LC's CSS Pads (2) orange, (2) white, and (2) grey to apply #105/#205 and either a finishing glaze or sealant.

Is this a good start?

Honestly, the yellow/purple/wool pads for heavier cutting kinda freak me out a bit, as a newbie I have a huge fear of 'scorching' through someone's paint...lol.

BTW... the PC w/5.5" pads is on the top of my wish list, so I am hoping the Dewalt will suffice to get me there.

Thanks again, it's good to be able to cross-reference LC & Meg's, and after reading this I'm off to explore B&S pads now.
 
art72 said:
Cool... Thanks for the chart, that will definitely come in handy.

I just picked up my 1st polisher, a Dewalt 443. Wasn't exactly what I wanted, but I got it cheap (*$50 like brand new) at a local pawn shop.

I read it can be slightly modified to perform decently, and plan to get some LC CSS 6.5" pads later this week. As a newbie I was gonna go with LC's CSS Pads (2) orange, (2) white, and (2) grey to apply #105/#205 and either a finishing glaze or sealant.

Is this a good start?

Honestly, the yellow/purple/wool pads for heavier cutting kinda freak me out a bit, as a newbie I have a huge fear of 'scorching' through someone's paint...lol.

BTW... the PC w/5.5" pads is on the top of my wish list, so I am hoping the Dewalt will suffice to get me there.

Thanks again, it's good to be able to cross-reference LC & Meg's, and after reading this I'm off to explore B&S pads now.
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Yes, that sounds like you are off to a great start!
 
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