Jngrbrdman
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Do you just throw them in with the laundry or do you hand wash them? Mine is getting kind of diry and I don't know exactly how to clean it without ruining it.
Meguiar's G110v2 Dual Action Polisher is the REAL DEAL!
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imported_gewb
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I wash them by hand in the sink with laundry detergent or throw ‘em in the washing machine along with a load of non-bleach whites. Drip dry.
Koyaanisqatsi
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I wash them in the sink with dawn DWL. It makes them nice and clean. I use a basin with dawn in it to soak them then rinse them under fresh water. Then I hang them to dry. I have heard not to put them in the dryer.
I machine wash my mf towels with ordinary laundry detergent. After the cycle has completed. I run them through the rinse cycle again. I do put them in the dryer at medium heat. I find that the dryer seems to fluff them more than air drying. As already mentioned in previous posts, never use bleach or fabric softener and if you ever wash and/or dry them with anything that has lint, you'll be picking lint out of the towels forever!
I've also tried boiling them and even did it once in the pressure cooker at higher heat. Some brands of towels it did seem to make them a little softer to the touch, but didn't seem to have any effect on the better towels either positive or negative. I was really trying to get stains out of the towels, but nothing seems to get some stains out of mf.
I've also tried boiling them and even did it once in the pressure cooker at higher heat. Some brands of towels it did seem to make them a little softer to the touch, but didn't seem to have any effect on the better towels either positive or negative. I was really trying to get stains out of the towels, but nothing seems to get some stains out of mf.
imported_Kevin Brown
Jedi Master
CIRCUITRY. CONTROL. COMFORT.
The Meguiar's G110v2 Dual-Action Polisher is going to surprise a LOT of people.
I did my best to write this mini-review in a manner that would not discount the merits of all the other random orbital polishers I've used. But I couldn't. I haven't used them all of course, but I have used quite a few. So, here goes:
The v2 SMOKES all of them.
Let me clarify that statement, because it is a bold one.
I don't mean smoke, as in:
A cute, little, cloud-shaped, whitish puff of floating fuzzball type of smoke.
Not that kind. Not at all.
I mean SMOKE, as in:
A BELCHING, DARK AS DEATH, EVIL IN SHAPE, BREATHE IT IN THEN PASS OUT BECAUSE IT'S A NITROMETHANE-INSTILLED, FURIOUS STORM CLOUD type of smoke.
In fact, the G110v2 can equal or surpass the polishing performance of some pretty prominent forced rotation machines.
Does that paint a better picture for you?
In terms of PAD ROTATION, there may be some machines that can outrun the G110v2 on the top end. I own one that did just that. However, top end rotational speed is not the only thing requiring consideration when gauging the performance of a polishing machine. After all, it is RESULTS that count. Anyone that has used various buffing liquids and pads with a random orbital knows that the pad/buffing liquid combination definitely has an effect on backing plate rotation. In fact, some liquids deliver best results regardless the amount of rotation (as long as there is at least some rotation).
The amount of orbits per minute a machine can deliver is not to be overlooked, either. If this all sounds a bit daunting, don't worry. Although there are oodles of factors that change the optimum oscillation/rotation combination, most times it is best to just put the machine to paint, and get to the task of polishing.
It seems apparent that the R&D team spent a lot of time behind the controls of the first generation G110, and implemented some very useful changes.
PHYSICAL CHANGES
The appearance of this machine is very similar to its predecessor, but there are some changes.
At first glance, you'll likely notice that the yellow shroud covering the rotating assembly is smaller. This is good, especially if you are planning on using smaller pads and backing plates. The smaller cover allows the machine to fit in areas that the original G110 could not, and if a small backing plate is to be employed, the shroud will keep wandering fingertips from entering the dreaded "spin zone" (the area where the counterbalance rotates). Next, you may notice that the motor brushes are accessible from the outside of the machine. Smart! It kind of relays the fact that this machine is made to last a long while. By the way- an extra set of brushes is included with the machine.
CIRCUITRY
The Meguiar's G110v2 features an ingenious feedback circuit that is responsible for delivering improved random rotation.
This is especially true when the machine is put under an increased load due to panel shape, increased friction, or user applied downward pressure. The first time this feature kicks in, you may think to yourself, "Did something just happen, here?"
Yes, it did. When the feedback circuit applies its magic, you may notice a brief moment of transition, then a gradual restoration of the rotation. It is not a limitless delivery system, so if you apply heavy pressure to the head of the machine and are anticipating a magical resurgence of pad rotation, you may be disappointed. It is likely that most people won't ever notice the circuitry do its job. What will be apparent is how much better your pads and polish are working, and how much better YOU have become as a paint polisher!
COMFORT
The Meguiar's G110v2 is comfortable to use.
After all, it IS a random orbital. Some users of this type of machine are susceptible to hand or arm irritation due to the repetitive oscillating motion it creates (especially when used with the higher speed settings). A majority of the negative aspects of this type of motion can be dealt with by adjusting hand placement and grip, fine tuning pad type and size, and dialing in the lowest orbit speed that still allows for satisfactory defect removal. Unfortunately, lower orbit speeds tend to diminish the ability of the machine to create centripetal force (the physics element that causes the random orbital's backing plate to rotate), so higher orbit speeds are often used in order to generate more pad rotation. With the G110v2, the feedback circuit works so well to curtail this inherent trait that the orbit speed can be dropped while still delivering impressive polishing results. This is a BIG DEAL in terms of improving COMFORT.
Most users find that a random orbital is easier to control than a forced rotational orbital. This is especially true when the attached buffing pad travels across a curved panel and must contour to the shape. Things get even sketchier with the forced rotation machine if the side of the buffing pad meets an aggressively contoured surface (and flat hoods are sooo OUT these days) because the lateral in and out motion of the pad shakes the machine in defiance. Pad choice (size, material, and density) can minimize or optimize this occurrence. A small stroke machine does not react as defiantly as its larger stroke counterpart, so in these situations a random orbital featuring a small stroke feels more refined and seems easier to control.
Although this machine features the original G110's 5/16" stroke, it feels solid and a bit quieter than the original (there is NO doubt that the G110v2 is substantially quieter than the Porter Cable 7424XP). After all, if the noise level is uncomfortable and you prefer not to use ear protection, using the machine is not enjoyable over the long haul. Ease of control increases comfort, allowing a person to use the machine for longer periods of time. The G110v2 features a bail-style handle, which many users like. I prefer to use the machine WITHOUT a handle, as machine motions (lateral movement, wiggling, or bouncing) seems to be less pronounced. Hey- it's a pivot point versus distance to your hand physics-based thing.
Perhaps you are wondering, "If the stroke size remains the same, and the G110v2 is very similar to the original physically and ergonomically, how did the team at Meguiar's deliver more comfort?" They did it by giving you better CONTROL. You've just read about the feedback circuitry. Now let's move on!
CONTROL
The Meguiar's G110v2 features a very precise speed control dial.
What a concept! If there is one thing I have learned over the years, it is that the mechanism responsible for controlling orbit speed is a dial for a reason. Why is it then that so many random orbitals feature a speed dial that seems as though it was pulled from a bargain bin? Many of the machines I have owned monitor speed satisfactorily at the lower settings, but in the upper ranges their is virtually no progression. Not so with the G110v2. It is very accurate, from speed one to speed six. This sounds like a small detail, but inaccurate dials are a REAL drag.
With the advent of high tech abrasives and improved pad technology, the random orbital is rapidly gaining acceptance as a viable alternative to the rotary buffer. Whether the task at hand is heavy defect removal or ultra fine polishing, many paint polishing enthusiasts are realizing the potential of the random orbital. The primary concern seems to be the amount of pad rotation, and how it rapidly diminishes as pressure or friction is increased. With the Meguiar's G110v2, a huge leap in terms of random orbital performance has been made.
CONCLUSION
If you count yourself as a huge fan of the forced rotation orbital, you may not be entirely swayed to try this machine.
That is, unless you like the power that a forced rotation machine delivers, but you HATE the way it steers the machine when a curved or complex panel is encountered.
If this caveat describes you to a "T"...
Then the G110v2 may be the machine for YOU.
Many forced rotation orbitals do not allow the user to alter the backing plate pad diameter because the shroud size is too big, or the backing plate uses an odd bolt pattern.
Even worse, some backing plates are an integral part of the machine. Because of these shortcomings, the use of various pad diameters are limited, by design. Not so with the G110v2.
If you already use a random orbital and enjoy the results you can achieve, then keep on using your machine.
BUT!- If you are ready to upgrade or add another machine to your arsenal...
Then the G110v2 may be the machine for YOU, too.
The Meguiar's G110v2 Dual-Action Polisher is going to surprise a LOT of people.
I did my best to write this mini-review in a manner that would not discount the merits of all the other random orbital polishers I've used. But I couldn't. I haven't used them all of course, but I have used quite a few. So, here goes:
The v2 SMOKES all of them.
Let me clarify that statement, because it is a bold one.
I don't mean smoke, as in:
A cute, little, cloud-shaped, whitish puff of floating fuzzball type of smoke.
Not that kind. Not at all.
I mean SMOKE, as in:
A BELCHING, DARK AS DEATH, EVIL IN SHAPE, BREATHE IT IN THEN PASS OUT BECAUSE IT'S A NITROMETHANE-INSTILLED, FURIOUS STORM CLOUD type of smoke.
In fact, the G110v2 can equal or surpass the polishing performance of some pretty prominent forced rotation machines.
Does that paint a better picture for you?
In terms of PAD ROTATION, there may be some machines that can outrun the G110v2 on the top end. I own one that did just that. However, top end rotational speed is not the only thing requiring consideration when gauging the performance of a polishing machine. After all, it is RESULTS that count. Anyone that has used various buffing liquids and pads with a random orbital knows that the pad/buffing liquid combination definitely has an effect on backing plate rotation. In fact, some liquids deliver best results regardless the amount of rotation (as long as there is at least some rotation).
The amount of orbits per minute a machine can deliver is not to be overlooked, either. If this all sounds a bit daunting, don't worry. Although there are oodles of factors that change the optimum oscillation/rotation combination, most times it is best to just put the machine to paint, and get to the task of polishing.
It seems apparent that the R&D team spent a lot of time behind the controls of the first generation G110, and implemented some very useful changes.
PHYSICAL CHANGES
The appearance of this machine is very similar to its predecessor, but there are some changes.
At first glance, you'll likely notice that the yellow shroud covering the rotating assembly is smaller. This is good, especially if you are planning on using smaller pads and backing plates. The smaller cover allows the machine to fit in areas that the original G110 could not, and if a small backing plate is to be employed, the shroud will keep wandering fingertips from entering the dreaded "spin zone" (the area where the counterbalance rotates). Next, you may notice that the motor brushes are accessible from the outside of the machine. Smart! It kind of relays the fact that this machine is made to last a long while. By the way- an extra set of brushes is included with the machine.
CIRCUITRY
The Meguiar's G110v2 features an ingenious feedback circuit that is responsible for delivering improved random rotation.
This is especially true when the machine is put under an increased load due to panel shape, increased friction, or user applied downward pressure. The first time this feature kicks in, you may think to yourself, "Did something just happen, here?"
Yes, it did. When the feedback circuit applies its magic, you may notice a brief moment of transition, then a gradual restoration of the rotation. It is not a limitless delivery system, so if you apply heavy pressure to the head of the machine and are anticipating a magical resurgence of pad rotation, you may be disappointed. It is likely that most people won't ever notice the circuitry do its job. What will be apparent is how much better your pads and polish are working, and how much better YOU have become as a paint polisher!
COMFORT
The Meguiar's G110v2 is comfortable to use.
After all, it IS a random orbital. Some users of this type of machine are susceptible to hand or arm irritation due to the repetitive oscillating motion it creates (especially when used with the higher speed settings). A majority of the negative aspects of this type of motion can be dealt with by adjusting hand placement and grip, fine tuning pad type and size, and dialing in the lowest orbit speed that still allows for satisfactory defect removal. Unfortunately, lower orbit speeds tend to diminish the ability of the machine to create centripetal force (the physics element that causes the random orbital's backing plate to rotate), so higher orbit speeds are often used in order to generate more pad rotation. With the G110v2, the feedback circuit works so well to curtail this inherent trait that the orbit speed can be dropped while still delivering impressive polishing results. This is a BIG DEAL in terms of improving COMFORT.
Most users find that a random orbital is easier to control than a forced rotational orbital. This is especially true when the attached buffing pad travels across a curved panel and must contour to the shape. Things get even sketchier with the forced rotation machine if the side of the buffing pad meets an aggressively contoured surface (and flat hoods are sooo OUT these days) because the lateral in and out motion of the pad shakes the machine in defiance. Pad choice (size, material, and density) can minimize or optimize this occurrence. A small stroke machine does not react as defiantly as its larger stroke counterpart, so in these situations a random orbital featuring a small stroke feels more refined and seems easier to control.
Although this machine features the original G110's 5/16" stroke, it feels solid and a bit quieter than the original (there is NO doubt that the G110v2 is substantially quieter than the Porter Cable 7424XP). After all, if the noise level is uncomfortable and you prefer not to use ear protection, using the machine is not enjoyable over the long haul. Ease of control increases comfort, allowing a person to use the machine for longer periods of time. The G110v2 features a bail-style handle, which many users like. I prefer to use the machine WITHOUT a handle, as machine motions (lateral movement, wiggling, or bouncing) seems to be less pronounced. Hey- it's a pivot point versus distance to your hand physics-based thing.
Perhaps you are wondering, "If the stroke size remains the same, and the G110v2 is very similar to the original physically and ergonomically, how did the team at Meguiar's deliver more comfort?" They did it by giving you better CONTROL. You've just read about the feedback circuitry. Now let's move on!
CONTROL
The Meguiar's G110v2 features a very precise speed control dial.
What a concept! If there is one thing I have learned over the years, it is that the mechanism responsible for controlling orbit speed is a dial for a reason. Why is it then that so many random orbitals feature a speed dial that seems as though it was pulled from a bargain bin? Many of the machines I have owned monitor speed satisfactorily at the lower settings, but in the upper ranges their is virtually no progression. Not so with the G110v2. It is very accurate, from speed one to speed six. This sounds like a small detail, but inaccurate dials are a REAL drag.
With the advent of high tech abrasives and improved pad technology, the random orbital is rapidly gaining acceptance as a viable alternative to the rotary buffer. Whether the task at hand is heavy defect removal or ultra fine polishing, many paint polishing enthusiasts are realizing the potential of the random orbital. The primary concern seems to be the amount of pad rotation, and how it rapidly diminishes as pressure or friction is increased. With the Meguiar's G110v2, a huge leap in terms of random orbital performance has been made.
CONCLUSION
If you count yourself as a huge fan of the forced rotation orbital, you may not be entirely swayed to try this machine.
That is, unless you like the power that a forced rotation machine delivers, but you HATE the way it steers the machine when a curved or complex panel is encountered.
If this caveat describes you to a "T"...
Then the G110v2 may be the machine for YOU.
Many forced rotation orbitals do not allow the user to alter the backing plate pad diameter because the shroud size is too big, or the backing plate uses an odd bolt pattern.
Even worse, some backing plates are an integral part of the machine. Because of these shortcomings, the use of various pad diameters are limited, by design. Not so with the G110v2.
If you already use a random orbital and enjoy the results you can achieve, then keep on using your machine.
BUT!- If you are ready to upgrade or add another machine to your arsenal...
Then the G110v2 may be the machine for YOU, too.
Old Pirate
AMG Classic Car Detailing
Going to have to try one soon, Thanks Nick for the time to do the write up.
I truly hope I can get some relief for my hands.imported_Luster
New member
Thanks Kevin, for the excellent write-up!
Question:
In your comparison of the G110v2 to the PC 7424XP, are the only considerations vibration and sound level?
Any differences in speed or power? Or are they pretty close?
Question:
In your comparison of the G110v2 to the PC 7424XP, are the only considerations vibration and sound level?
Any differences in speed or power? Or are they pretty close?
imported_Kevin Brown
Jedi Master
Thanks Kevin, for the excellent write-up!
Question:
In your comparison of the G110v2 to the PC 7424XP, are the only considerations vibration and sound level?
No. Honestly, I do not see why I would consider a 7424XP after using the G110v2, because I already have an older G100 (same thing as the original 7424). My well broken in G100 spins at a pretty darned high rate of speed (I could not tell the difference between the two). Plus, Porter Cable obviously did not improve the speed dial which was a BIG mistake. The 7424XP is larger in size than the original, but why?
Head to head against the G110v2, the 7424XP feels rudimentary.
Sorry I do not have many nice things to say about their new machine because I really believe that Porter Cable makes durable and well engineered tools. Their claim to fame is reliability. I just think that if something "new" becomes available, performance or comfort or price should be better.
Ummm, lets just say that in head to head testing, the G110v2 was far and away better at removing defects. I was able to remove defects FASTER with the G110v2 using speed setting 4.5 versus using the Porter Cable 7424XP on maximum speed. On speed 4.5-5.0, the Porter Cable was not even close. Sorry! But it was like hitting the dragstrip with some old E78-14 bias ply tires (7424XP), and then switching to a nice set of drag slicks and spraying the track with a coat of VHT Track Bite (G110v2) . The G110v2 left the 7424XP in the dust.
No answer to my question on the amps and wattage compared to the new Griot's DA?
bufferbarry
New member
Ok I'm sold!!!! :thumbup:
Justin Murphy
New member
Kevin......
How did the V2 handle the larger 7" 2.0 Meg's pads?
Did you try it with any type of wool pads?
And if you tried it with and 4" pads, how was the control?
Thanks again for one awesome review!!!
How did the V2 handle the larger 7" 2.0 Meg's pads?
Did you try it with any type of wool pads?
And if you tried it with and 4" pads, how was the control?
Thanks again for one awesome review!!!
imported_Indy YZF
New member
Is this with the LC pads or the Megs pads? I need to get a new machine as my UDM is killing my wrists, this sounds like the ticket. And since I have everything Meg's, then it'll fit right in.
Let me know about the pads, I have an assortment of LC flats (5.5., 6.5) and I'm wondering if they are good or if the G110v2 works better with the Meg's pads.
Let me know about the pads, I have an assortment of LC flats (5.5., 6.5) and I'm wondering if they are good or if the G110v2 works better with the Meg's pads.
imported_Flash Gordon
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Why don't you do some photo comparisons. Of course they could be manipulated, but.......
I would find all this much more believable if you weren't employed by Meguiars.
Sorry :devil:
Nick Chapman
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I can't wait to get my hands on this new machine. But unfortunately it'll be a while. Just can't justify the purchace of a new DA when I have 10 different models around the shop 
Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
Kevin Brown is NOT EMPLOYED by Meguiar's nor has he ever been unless I am mistaken