Meguiars #16 paste wax

EisenHulk said:
What are people using as a base for #16? I know it's great by itself, but I was wondering if anyone had any luck when using it in combination with another product.



I use it over #21 or NXT 2.0, mostly for added protection in the Wisconsin winters. It looks great and adds the much needed protection from the snow, salt and winter grunge.
 
I have already applied 476s onto my car for the winter.



Would there be any bonding issues on applying #16 on top of 476s?
 
corrswitch said:
I have already applied 476s onto my car for the winter.



Would there be any bonding issues on applying #16 on top of 476s?



I've not tried this but I'd think the solvents in #16, or any other wax, might dissolve the 476. I don't believe you can effectively layer wax products.
 
corrswitch said:
I have already applied 476s onto my car for the winter.



Would there be any bonding issues on applying #16 on top of 476s?



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jfelbab said:
I've not tried this but I'd think the solvents in #16, or any other wax, might dissolve the 476. I don't believe you can effectively layer wax products.



While I've had good success layering certain waxes, I dunno if this one would work out :think: I dunno....I guess it'd go OK, I'd be a little surprised if the solvents/etc. in #16 had an appreciable effect on the 476S.



I've spit-shined Souveran over 476S, and that worked OK but yeah, Souveran and #16are very different. I *would* employ some sort of spit-shine technique if trying this, however.



But really, I dunno if it'd be worth doing. I don't think the appearance difference would be very significant and I'd *MUCH* rather just have the 476S on there (our situation with the A8 is sufficiently unique that you shouldn't read much into it when it comes to winter protection).




Eisenhulk said:
What are people using as a base for #16? I know it's great by itself, but I was wondering if anyone had any luck when using it in combination with another product.



I like applying 476S over a base of 845. Sounds goofy, huh? Seems like the less-durable 845 would compromise things, but it doesn't IME.



The 476S seems more user-friendly over the 845, hard to verbalize but I like it.



A nice added benefit: the base of 845 makes it easier to avoid wax build-up issues around tape/graphics/etc.



I apply the 845 one day and the 476S the next.



This is one combo I *really* like, glad I stumbled across it. Might work as well for others as it does for me, can't see why it wouldn't.



Otherwise, when doing beaters/other people's vehicles I usually apply the 476S after/over 1Z Paint Polish. This is probably my favorite quickie two-step and the 476S doesn't mess with the wax/stuff/whatever that the 1Z PP leaves behind.



476S is also great over Autoglym SRP, but the SRP is really just a low/no-cut AIO and this combo needs to be preceded by (real) polishing. The SRP/476S combo is possibly the most durable easy way to go with 476S (at least that *I've* tried).
 
zaxjax said:
Am I correct but..[#1]... #16 has no abrasives or cleaners, so ...[#2]..it should layer fine?



Correct on #1.



Not *certain*, but leaning strongly towards incorrect on #2.



I only get good results layering #16 if I spit-shine or wait a few days between applications (note that this opinion is different from what I'd posted a few years ago; I've been more conscientious about studying this). IME #16 does *not* layer in the way that some products do. Not saying it doesn't layer at all, but doing, for example, 3 applications one-after-the-other would be a waste of time/effort/product IMO.



It's probably a matter of the solvents/etc. in the #16, which can compromise underlying stuff even in the absence of abrasives.



I'm not sure though :nixweiss



But I'd definitely do some kind of spit-shining if you want to try building up layers of #16. These days I just do one application and redo it as needed.
 
RDAVEX7 said:
I haven't been using my #16 so I broke it out again and applied it to my cf hood over Danase Paint Sealant. It doesn't take away from the look in sunlight and beads water very well. A nuba with sealant tendencies.



I was just thinking about how that would look!! Tnx for reading my mind!!
 
Thanks all for your responses.



Looks like I should wait for my next round of waxing and put #16 first and then 476s.



However by then, likely would want to try other combination's and many layers. :)
 
corrswitch said:
..Looks like I should wait for my next round of waxing and put #16 first and then 476s...



Gee, I dunno if I'd try *that* either :think: Sheesh, aren't *I* the wet blanket :o



I choose between the two waxes and just go with one or the other depending on the paint and the circumstances related to how the vehicle will be used.
 
Inzane said:
What's the point of adding one carnuaba on top of another? :nixweiss



To change some characteristic of the first one.



E.g., if you're not thrilled with how 476S looks, you might like it better with spit-shined Souveran over top of it (not that it'll look like straight Souveran, but it does look different), or if you want better beading/dirt shedding than you get with some wax you could put #16 or 476S over top of it.



But yeah...it's a sorta iffy thing to do IMO...might make things more to one's liking, might not.
 
corrswitch said:
Yeah, you're right. Just stick with one. I just wanted to try as many waxes as possible and accumulate them.



I can relate to the excitement of wanting to try many different products. (my wallet hurts).



But a more useful thing to try rather that putting one nuaba over top of another I think is to split sections of your car in half, such as your hood. Apply one wax on one half, and the other on the other half. (so beside each other, instead of on top of each other) That way you can watch how the beading, sheeting, slickness, etc. react over time this winter, and in direct comparison to each other.
 
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