Meg's MF Finishing Pad. Delaminated in 30 seconds use

CRS ???? New to me.



Bill D said:
I guess these things just happen at times. In another example,I had a near disaster twice with my CRS. On two occasions the resin cartridge failed. One, and then at another time a few months later, the other. They replaced them each time. I haven't used the thing since the most recent replacement about two weeks ago and I have to admit I'm a little nervous to touch it, but I was happy things were addressed and made right.
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SuperBee364 said:
Let me guess, the inner plug at the top of the white resin cartridge came unglued from the interior of the cartridge. Yeah, I've had that, too, but they didn't replace the cartridge for free. :/
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Yep happened twice. It was a disaster ! Looked like sewage coming out of my hose! I'm sure glad I didn't have it near the car!
 
Bill D said:
Yep happened twice. It was a disaster ! Looked like sewage coming out of my hose! I'm sure glad I didn't have it near the car!
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My first indication that something was amiss was the very strange noise my gas powered pressure washer started making. Luckily, it didn't damage the PW, it chewed up those little resin beads like a champ. :)
 
I still have the same pads that I had back last November. They get used on 40 to 60 cars a week and still like brand new after cold water machine washes. A few months back I bought some 5 inch disc's and they took a crap instantly. These were obviously a bad batch. It has happened and probally will again. Megs knows of the issue and handle it perfect. There a good group over there. As far as the whole speed thing. Well Lets just say its a precaution. I've been running them at 3500 rpm's for cutting on the new Dewalt with the dynabrade attachment. There still as nice as day one!
 
I had a couple 5 in mf pads take a dump on me last month, called meguiar's directly to discuss my issue and they replaced them without hesitation, excellent customer service.
Barry Theal said:
I've been running them at 3500 rpm's for cutting on the new Dewalt with the dynabrade attachment. There still as nice as day one!
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hmmmm, now this sounds interesting.
 
Barry Theal said:
I still have the same pads that I had back last November. They get used on 40 to 60 cars a week and still like brand new after cold water machine washes. A few months back I bought some 5 inch disc's and they took a crap instantly. These were obviously a bad batch. It has happened and probally will again. Megs knows of the issue and handle it perfect. There a good group over there. As far as the whole speed thing. Well Lets just say its a precaution. I've been running them at 3500 rpm's for cutting on the new Dewalt with the dynabrade attachment. There still as nice as day one!
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So what you've got are pre-production, or prototype pads that are still in use, or are these the production pads?



Any plans to put some of the new Optimum MF pads in the rotation as well? I'm curious how those will hold up in volume environments by comparison....
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
So what you've got are pre-production, or prototype pads that are still in use, or are these the production pads?



Any plans to put some of the new Optimum MF pads in the rotation as well? I'm curious how those will hold up in volume environments by comparison....
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In spite of the temporary high blood pressure caused by them earlier, I sure like Meg's Finishing MF pads. Even at slower PC speeds, the MF pad brought the gloss up on my car in a hurry. I was able to do the entire car with one 5" pad and one 3" pad. The pad was spun in to a cotton terry cloth towel after each usage. I must admit, though, that pad failure is constantly on my mind.



Definitely going to pick up some of the Buff N Shine/Optimum pads soon... Maybe at SEMA??
 
SuperBee364 said:
In spite of the temporary high blood pressure caused by them earlier, I sure like Meg's Finishing MF pads. Even at slower PC speeds, the MF pad brought the gloss up on my car in a hurry. I was able to do the entire car with one 5" pad and one 3" pad. The pad was spun in to a cotton terry cloth towel after each usage. I must admit, though, that pad failure is constantly on my mind.



Definitely going to pick up some of the Buff N Shine/Optimum pads soon... Maybe at SEMA??
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I totally agree, the finishing pads work great. My main curiosity is in comparing durability over time.
 
Does anyone happen to know if the "bad batch" pads were limited to the five inch Finishing MF pads, or are there other pads out there (like the MF cutting, and various sizes) to be careful of?
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
So what you've got are pre-production, or prototype pads that are still in use, or are these the production pads?



Any plans to put some of the new Optimum MF pads in the rotation as well? I'm curious how those will hold up in volume environments by comparison....
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I can order some and let yo know, But yes many are prerealease pads. I was one of the lucky few who had the stuff before its release in February. This photo was taken last year. This was the third run they sent me. This was sent out in December I think. Notice everything is label basiclly. The gallons were 301 and the quarts were 300 and some pads.



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Interesting thing about that picture Barry is that those are all the pads you'll need to go mow through all that liquid. Can't say that about foam....
 
Barry Theal said:
I can order some and let yo know, But yes many are prerealease pads. I was one of the lucky few who had the stuff before its release in February. This photo was taken last year. This was the third run they sent me. This was sent out in December I think. Notice everything is label basiclly. The gallons were 301 and the quarts were 300 and some pads.



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Thanks Barry; yeah I remember you/your shop were one of the beta testers, that's why I asked. I absolutely agree that these pads are extremely durable, or at least that's been my experience with the pads from my original batch (ordered the day they were released) -- I've only worn out one, and it was due to the foam melting/flaking apart. Admittedly my fault though, I was pushing it beyond design intent on my Dynabrade at maximum speed.
 
I have been talking all year about never killing a pad, never having a delam or backing plate issue.





I share this with all you guys, our retail customers and other detailers.





I killed a 5 inch MF pad, by cleaning it on speed 4 after 2 sections of work with D300 last weekend. Old batch though from when they first hit shelves we held on to a couple cases for ourselves.
 
has anyone noticed their pads ovalling? One of mine has lost its roundness after just two uses. I noticed it started to get out of balance so I took off the pad and saw it was elongated. I tried tugging on the thin side to round it out again and it doesn't stretch that direction, but it stretches a lot the other way. I can't seem to get it to round out again.
 
Pulled along one length. The LC pads tend to cup really bad on the 5 inch backing plate. The 6.5's don't do it as much, but the MF pads stretch in one direction and not in the other. Grab them and stretch them one way, then flip 1/4 turn and repeat, they stretch more in one direction. Unfortunately one of my pads stretched and recaught on the backing plate, reinforcing that stretch.
 
Here's the disc that's ovalled along with a superb visualization of the amount of stretch using my unparalleled skills in MS paint.



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having a limit of 3800 and 4800 OPM is just plain stupid. my random orbital runs at 10,000 opm before slowing back down to 4000. My machine starts at 4,000 for gods sake.

Today my first test of the OPT Polishing pads showed at 10,000 OPM and 1250 rpm on the rotary then slowly back to 750 over a total of 7 mins that these Optimum pads are the way to go



brilliant build quality too.
 
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