Found a bottle of this in my dad's fianceé's garage. It has contradictory terminology on it, saying its both a "glaze" and a "polish." I found a most informative post by Mike on it (http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/23740-meguiar-s-7-mike-phillips.html) but this sounds like more of a PITA than it is worth. My dad is easing into retirement and he's starting to build a little bit of a detailing arsenal. He's is way old school--hadn't even heard of sealants until I told him about them, and I know next to nothing about them lol. He did just get Griot's G6, and we're looking forward to playing with that. Would you guys suggest giving the Megs 7 a shot? Or should we start with UC/SwirlX (/Scrathx?)? LSP is taken care of, as between the two of us we have Megs Nxt/Nxt2.0 (both paste and liquid)/Gold Class and I even have a tin of Collinite 476--for my truck that sits outside. Said truck will also be "The *****" for all our machine polishing experiments, before moving to his imported luxury sedan.
Megs #7--what is it?
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wannafbody
wannafbody
oil based glaze- pretty much worthless
shakashaunz
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I love the stuff. I use it before a good nuba on my black 300zx. It really adds a dark deep wetness to the finish and had great filling capability. If used correctly it's not that hard to use.
imported_Bence
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It adds the signature Meguiar's richness to the paint. Good stuff before carnaubas. Yes, as it's a non-drying oil, removal needs 2-3 hits as you just remove the skin of the oil, OR simply wait longer and it will come off easily when it's completely dry. I was surprised when I did a black CR-V and applied #7 under the full sun and it dried out relatively quickly and came off VERY easily.
wannafbody said:
I don't agree. On single stage paint *nothing* wets the paint like #7, creating a richness and depth unmatched. On older B/C paint it can still make a huge difference. It lasts as long as the LSP that locks it in.
Unless you use Zaino which can't handle oil-based glazes. :nana:
wannafbody
wannafbody
Alfisti said:
True, Megs products are great on single stage paint. on clear coat there are longer lasting choices.
Accumulator
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Good for rejuventating old single stage too...one of the *VERY* rare instances where "feeding the paint" isn't BS. I got the idea from Mike Phillips and it worked great on an old Jag.
Clean the paint, apply a *very* liberal amount of #7, let it sit for a good long time, and then buff off the excess. THEN start the correction/etc.
Clean the paint, apply a *very* liberal amount of #7, let it sit for a good long time, and then buff off the excess. THEN start the correction/etc.
Mike_Phillips
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Keep in mind #7 came out before most of us were born. My best guess is the early 1920's and back then the paints being brushed onto cars and later sprayed were shellac, varnish and lacquer, all pigmented single stage coatings.
Also keep in mind that Meguiar's mostly catered to the professional side of the industry and didn't launch their Consumer Line until 1973, again, probably before some here were born.
It's not a wax or a paint sealant, it's a non-abrasive polish, in Meguiar's terminology it's a "Pure Polish", it's commonly used on fresh paint before 30 days air cure as it's completely safe for fresh paint and also to create a wet look. The wet look does tend to work better on single stage paints but a lot of people really like it on their clear coat finishes. Keep in mind, paint technology has come a long ways in just the last decade or so and a brand new paint job looks clear and glossy with nothing on them, it wasn't like that back in the old days.
Here's a snippet from an article I wrote,
Pre-cursors to M07
This is just a guess on my part because the people that would know the answers are no longer with us... that said, it's my guess this was a pre-cursor to the M07 product if not the M07 product. Note the art deco design of the first bottle...
Here's a collection of 4 old Mirror Bright products from between the 1920' and 1940's
Photos Courtesy of MeguiarsOnline.com
M07 Sealer Reseal Glaze --> Show Car Glaze
I posted these pictures recently to another related thread and thought I would share them here just to give people reading this a picture or anchor in their mind as to just how old the M07 formula is, it's been around since the Model-T. The glass bottle is post-WWII, a glass bottle with the Mirror Bright wording on the label would be pre-WWII
Sometimes I remind people that these products were around before plastic was invented, thus the glass bottles. The "cylinder" bottle you see below, just to the right of the glass bottle was the first plastic bottles to be introduced I think in the late 1950's, maybe early 1960's.
The third bottle from the left is a clear plastic bottle when they switched to the current style of bottles and is from the 1970's
The 4th bottle from the right shows when they changed the name from Sealer Reseal Glaze to Show Car Glaze primarily because as our lingo changed in the car appearance world, people were confusing "Sealer" with "Sealant" and M07 is water-soluble, hopefully everyone reading this can see why that kind of confusion could be a problem in the enthusiast or consumer market.
You can read the rest of the story and see all the pictures here, I'd re-post it but it's very picture heavy with antique bottles and cans.
Some Vintage Meguiar's Products from my Collection (Lots of pictures)
Also keep in mind that Meguiar's mostly catered to the professional side of the industry and didn't launch their Consumer Line until 1973, again, probably before some here were born.
It's not a wax or a paint sealant, it's a non-abrasive polish, in Meguiar's terminology it's a "Pure Polish", it's commonly used on fresh paint before 30 days air cure as it's completely safe for fresh paint and also to create a wet look. The wet look does tend to work better on single stage paints but a lot of people really like it on their clear coat finishes. Keep in mind, paint technology has come a long ways in just the last decade or so and a brand new paint job looks clear and glossy with nothing on them, it wasn't like that back in the old days.
Here's a snippet from an article I wrote,
Pre-cursors to M07
This is just a guess on my part because the people that would know the answers are no longer with us... that said, it's my guess this was a pre-cursor to the M07 product if not the M07 product. Note the art deco design of the first bottle...
Here's a collection of 4 old Mirror Bright products from between the 1920' and 1940's
Photos Courtesy of MeguiarsOnline.com
M07 Sealer Reseal Glaze --> Show Car Glaze
I posted these pictures recently to another related thread and thought I would share them here just to give people reading this a picture or anchor in their mind as to just how old the M07 formula is, it's been around since the Model-T. The glass bottle is post-WWII, a glass bottle with the Mirror Bright wording on the label would be pre-WWII
Sometimes I remind people that these products were around before plastic was invented, thus the glass bottles. The "cylinder" bottle you see below, just to the right of the glass bottle was the first plastic bottles to be introduced I think in the late 1950's, maybe early 1960's.
The third bottle from the left is a clear plastic bottle when they switched to the current style of bottles and is from the 1970's
The 4th bottle from the right shows when they changed the name from Sealer Reseal Glaze to Show Car Glaze primarily because as our lingo changed in the car appearance world, people were confusing "Sealer" with "Sealant" and M07 is water-soluble, hopefully everyone reading this can see why that kind of confusion could be a problem in the enthusiast or consumer market.
You can read the rest of the story and see all the pictures here, I'd re-post it but it's very picture heavy with antique bottles and cans.
Some Vintage Meguiar's Products from my Collection (Lots of pictures)
Accumulator
Well-known member
Mike Phillips said:
That cylindrical plastic bottle was around for a long time. I *still* think it's weird to see #7 in the current one!
MichaelSpoots
New member
It's a pleasure to use, if you consider "extreme difficulty of removal to the point that you must mar and damage the paint while removing it" pleasurable.
Just find out for yourself
Just find out for yourself
imported_Bence
New member
Absolutely...