Megs #20 or HDPoxy?

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08Sunburst

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So, its about time for me to do a good spring cleaning.. Last fall, i used megs #20 on my car, and it seems to have held up pretty decently over the winter. Still have a decent amount of beading, and the car is still easy to keep clean.



Ive been researching(as always) sealants and came across the HDPoxy.



Can i get some opinions on one vs the other? How is the durability of the HD compared to megs?



Ease of application?



I have a sunburst orange car, so looking for something to really make the color stand out.



For refrence, this is the color im working with..



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I can't speak to the durability of HD Proxy yet (only been using it a couple weeks) but it will make that color stand out. Has a really rich, Meguiars #26 thick look to it. Apply thinly, let sit about 15 minutes, wipes off pretty easily. If you try to remove it too soon, you may get some minor smearing, similar to trying to remove NXT too soon.
 
Scottwax said:
I can't speak to the durability of HD Proxy yet (only been using it a couple weeks) but it will make that color stand out. Has a really rich, Meguiars #26 thick look to it. Apply thinly, let sit about 15 minutes, wipes off pretty easily. If you try to remove it too soon, you may get some minor smearing, similar to trying to remove NXT too soon.
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Awesome, looks like my research pointed me into a good direction then lol



Ive really been wanting a sealer that makes the color pop a bit more. I liked the #20, it looked good, now i just want something better.



If you remember, keep me updated on how well it seems to hold up.



Also, thanks for the application tip. It sounds to me like i can start applying, and apply to the whole car, and then start wiping off where i started, and work my way around.



Did you use the hdpoxy applicator pad? Or would a foam applicator be ok to apply with? I saw on their video they put three pea sized drops on the applicator and worked it in. Also read that an ounce will cover the average sized car.



Did you apply one coat or two? If more than one coat, did you wait the typical day or so, or just apply right away?



I really havent seen too much on the HDPoxy on here, at least not as much as other products. Hopefully this can shed some light for others as well.
 
There are 2 sealants that are officially "Junebug" tested, proof and approved. These are BFWD and Poxy. I'm the heavy handed, use too much and hate anything that is hard to apply and remove. These products work and I can't F.... them up so I heartily recommend them. Now, I have to say they're both slick, look like you added a clear candy shell and make your paint look awesome. Poxy smells better, cleans up out of the pad with a little Dawn power desolver and has tighter beading when it rains. BFWD - use 1 pad that will be "the" pad to apply and don't waste time trying to clean it, just wipe it on a paper towel and store by itself. Oh- I apply with a PC, speed 3 and use a LC gold pad for BFWD and red for Poxy.



I just tried a combo - KAIO then the following weekend, quick wash and Poxy, best combo I've hit in a long time!
 
I to, like Junebug will only use 2 sealants BFWD & poxy. My Vintage sits aside now. These sealants are awesome. Give Poxy a try.
 
I can't answer for both , but more and more I have been switching back to Megs prof line . It give great results and last longer than most boutique crap . Available local at auto body shops and some auto stores.



I like using #20 and gave great results and lasted as long as anything I've tried (maybe Colinite being the exception) I also am using #26 liq and paste , #21 2.0 hydro , #6 cleaner wax has been great .
 
JuneBug said:
There are 2 sealants that are officially "Junebug" tested, proof and approved. These are BFWD and Poxy. I'm the heavy handed, use too much and hate anything that is hard to apply and remove. These products work and I can't F.... them up so I heartily recommend them. Now, I have to say they're both slick, look like you added a clear candy shell and make your paint look awesome. Poxy smells better, cleans up out of the pad with a little Dawn power desolver and has tighter beading when it rains. BFWD - use 1 pad that will be "the" pad to apply and don't waste time trying to clean it, just wipe it on a paper towel and store by itself. Oh- I apply with a PC, speed 3 and use a LC gold pad for BFWD and red for Poxy.



I just tried a combo - KAIO then the following weekend, quick wash and Poxy, best combo I've hit in a long time!
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That is exactly the look i am going for. Slick, candy shell, and make the paint pop. The color already pops and stands out, i want it to even more.



As for application, i will most likely be doing this by hand. I assume the results "should" be the same?



MDRX8 said:
I to, like Junebug will only use 2 sealants BFWD & proxy. My Vintage sits aside now. These sealants are awesome. Give Proxy a try.
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I definitely think im going to go with the poxy this year



Fallguy said:
I can't answer for both , but more and more I have been switching back to Megs prof line . It give great results and last longer than most boutique crap . Available local at auto body shops and some auto stores.



I like using #20 and gave great results and lasted as long as anything I've tried (maybe Colinite being the exception) I also am using #26 liq and paste , #21 2.0 hydro , #6 cleaner wax has been great .
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I liked the megs pro line, i used #20 last fall, and it still seems to be holding up well(on the side of my car that wasnt repainted :(, i just want something that makes the paint stand out even more than it already does. Megs #20 was good, but i know there is better out there.







Also, can anyone comment on the durability of the poxy? Obvisouly it depends on how you care for the paint, but on average.. 3 months, 4 months? Longer, shorter?
 
I used Megs #20 back a couple years ago - when I upgraded from NXT v2 (ha!) it's ok, easy to use and better staying power than NXT - but, BFWD and Poxy are a step up from #20. I'd like to mention that I was on the zaino kick for a while too and I know they have a lot of fans, I didn't care for it. Reason being it was too finicky and sensitive to temps/humidity. Honestly, between BFWD and Poxy it'd be hard to pick just

one. But if I "had" to - I'd go with Poxy for now.
 
tdekany said:
3 months...........
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Thats not TOO bad. My only convern would be in the winter months. It starts getting cold here around october-november, and starts warming up to decent temps around april-may-ish. If i were to re-apply mid-winter would that be a problem, or would it not adhere to the paint as well?



JuneBug said:
I used Megs #20 back a couple years ago - when I upgraded from NXT v2 (ha!) it's ok, easy to use and better staying power than NXT - but, BFWD and Poxy are a step up from #20. I'd like to mention that I was on the zaino kick for a while too and I know they have a lot of fans, I didn't care for it. Reason being it was too finicky and sensitive to temps/humidity. Honestly, between BFWD and Poxy it'd be hard to pick just

one. But if I "had" to - I'd go with Poxy for now.
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I used to use nxt as well, on my old car and on my new one. Never really had too many problems with it.



Now heres an interesting question.... If i were to use one coat of #20, and then one coat of poxy, would that work? Would there be any advantage to that, or not really?
 
I like M20. It's super easy to apply and remove. I have never read anyone complaining about streaking with it. It also has modest cleaning power (somewhere between Cleaner Wax and ColorX). It has cleaned up water spots for me that Four Star Pre-Wax Cleanser couldn't touch. Based on anecdotal reports, it appears to be more durable than NXT or M21. If I were a professional detailer, I might well make this my go-to product for basic wash & wax jobs.



I have never tried HD Poxy but am impressed by the support it is receiving in this thread. I'm also impressed by the price. But I am presently happy with the three sealants that I like to use on my cars: BFWD, FK 1000p, and UPGP. I'm not sure that any of them would give the kind of candy-shell pop that our OP is looking for, though I'm sure his car would look great in any of them. HD Poxy sounds like it might be a good choice--certainly worth a shot!



One point to consider: because of its cleaning power M20 does not need to be preceded by a paint cleaner; but I imagine that if you want to get optimal performance from Poxy, just like any other sealant, you will want to prepare the paint first with a pre-wax cleanser or polish of some sort.
 
akimel said:
I like M20. It's super easy to apply and remove. I have never read anyone complaining about streaking with it. It also has modest cleaning power (somewhere between Cleaner Wax and ColorX). It has cleaned up water spots for me that Four Star Pre-Wax Cleanser couldn't touch. Based on anecdotal reports, it appears to be more durable than NXT or M21. If I were a professional detailer, I might well make this my go-to product for basic wash & wax jobs.



I have never tried HD Poxy but am impressed by the support it is receiving in this thread. I'm also impressed by the price. But I am presently happy with the three sealants that I like to use on my cars: BFWD, FK 1000p, and UPGP. I'm not sure that any of them would give the kind of candy-shell pop that our OP is looking for, though I'm sure his car would look great in any of them. HD Poxy sounds like it might be a good choice--certainly worth a shot!



One point to consider: because of its cleaning power M20 does not need to be preceded by a paint cleaner; but I imagine that if you want to get optimal performance from Poxy, just like any other sealant, you will want to prepare the paint first with a pre-wax cleanser or polish of some sort.
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Very good info, thanks!



I liked the #20 as well, its definitely a good product, and i even had to special order it as no one around here carried it..



As for prepping the paint.. Im planning on doing a dawn wash, clay, another dawn wash, then go over the car with megs ultimate compound, then the poxy.



I just got my car back from the body shop about 3 weeks ago, and the moron who washed the car before i picked it up didnt wash it the right way, and left swirls in everything that was repainted(the entire drivers side, and part of the hood was blended)



So, needless to say, im going to at least have to hit the drivers side and hood with the compound, and might as well do the whole car at that point. I used the UC last fall before winter because i had some swirling i wanted to get rid of. Guess im going to have to do it again..



Ive already done a couple test spots, and the swirling is VERY LIGHT, so shouldnt be too bad(considering that i dont own a DA yet...) so everything will have to be done by hand.



I have to wait another week at the minimum before i do anything with the paint though, as the paint needs time to cure. The weather has been IFFY here to say the least, so i may have to wait a bit longer than the week just do i dont freeze in the garage while im working on it.
 
Try Meguiars Ultimate Polish on a Finishing pad speed of 3 and then 20 or 21 and the results will be great.



I am getting back into detailing this Meguiars combo, BFWD and Zaino are my three I am looking at.
 
mongo said:
Try Meguiars Ultimate Polish on aFinishing pad speed of 3 and then 20 or 21 and the results will be great.



I am getting back into detailing this Meguiars combo, BFWD and Zaino are my three I am looking at.
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No DA polisher for me yet lol



I used the UC last year by hand and got great results though. A bit tedious working by hand(took me about 10 hours, give or take) but it was worth it.
 
I used both products and I got great results by using a DA polisher. HDPOXY is much easier to remove and I only used 2 oz for a mid size car it has a very good open time and it will not dry. Another great advantage is that is does not leave any powder; however, if you try to remove it right away it will smear. HD Poxy needs at least 15 to 20 minutes to haze before you remove it. I really like it for dark color cars, for the rest I still use Megs# 20.

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I read the link and the ad for it .



No offense , but it sounds like every other ad written about a car product ect. Even though the ad says a year for durability , but best applied more often. Someone here said lasting 3 months and the other replied thats not to bad .....i think thats NOT a good thing. Heck Duragloss products last me through salt riddin , harsh wisconsin winters with weekly car washes and still are beading and shining like heck .
 
To me, the look it gives to the paint is well worth applying 3 to 4 times per year. It is so easy on and off. I apply once a month just because it looks so awesome.
 
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