Maybe you will understand

Disclaimer: I do not use Zaino and have no intent to. But I have read a lot about it.



The conclusion I've come to is that if you want to get the best results out of Zaino, you have to be totally dedicated to it. That does not just mean buying several of their products, but applying it in a very specific sequence using very specific techniques. It means waiting as long as it takes for the products to cure and set up. It means foresaking most other products to maximize the benefit from one product.



With One Grand or Meguiars or 3M or Pinnacle or many other products, you can mix and match products and techniques to get the results you want. You can spend less, more or the same as you'd spend on Zaino. Generally, there is no waiting period for product set up so the total amount of time expended is much less.



I'm not suggesting one brand over another. Nor am I suggesting you use "my" brand (which I have not mentioned) because I don't think "my way" is the best way or even the preferred way. I'm just offering some food for thought before you jump into this. Detailing is a lot of fun and a great way to relax - - for some people. If that's you, then I say "Full Speed Ahead".
 
than using anything else except you KNOW how to use the products properly (hence application instructions, curing times,etc,etc) for best results, and what it can,and what it can't do. It won't give you any BS, no false claims, nothing but the honest truth on what the products can do and how to use them to do it. So many products claim instant cure, no waiting time between layering, no silicone, no abrasives yet remove oxidation, no solvents, etc,etc. You CAN use zaino any way you want. You can apply back to back coats with no ill effects, you can use other car washes with it,etc,etc but for best results follow directions and procedures and use with zaino car wash and quick detailer. Also, by doing this there is no guessing on what is compatible with the system. Also I never heard anyone say that they loved zaino sealant but hated the car wash and quick detailer. If anything, be a skepic and just order Z1 and Z2, and if you are happy with it, then order the wash and quick detailer, and it only gets better from there..........



Again, I am not trying to persuade you in any means, but give you the deal with the zaino system if you were considering that route.



Best of luck with whatever you decide, and please report results!
 
Gotta agree with Detailking here, if you do choose to go the Zaino route then go ahead and get the Zaino shampoo and quick detailer, too. It is excellent quality and really compliments the sealant.
 
And you might as well get the Z-16 for the tires! So:

Z1, Z2, Z5 if you have swirls, Z6, Z7, Z16 and if you need glass polish Zaino makes a great one. This is the line up that I purchased...cost $80. Don't forget the Charisma bath towel which you can get online from the outlet store pretty cheap.

Oh yeah, don't forget a pair of sunglasses to shield your eyes from the killer reflection...ie buffing blindness! :cool:



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I like Meguiars #26 in the liquid form. The paste version can be a pain to remove. It is also readily available. Regardless of what the Zaino proponents claim, Meguiars #26 shine also has a cumulative effect. I bought my car about 6 years ago, and using a combination of Meguiars Pro Body Shop polishes and Meguiars #26, the shine is far deeper and glossier than when I bought it, and when parked next to a new car, my paint still looks far better.



I have never tried Blitz, so I really can't comment on it, other than to say many people seem to like it.



I have also started evaluating Formula 113 wax. I got a show car kit from Michael, who I am guessing is the owner? Anyway, the shine is outstanding, very similar to Meguiars, but more gloss. It is easy on and off, too. I have begun to test it on some of my customer's cars-ones I detail on a regular basis, so I can closely monitor the results. I understand some members of this board have had problems with Michael, but so far, I have not. The sample he sent me of his products was far larger than I expected.
 
You do not have to be "dedicated" to use Zaino. I know people who put on a single coat of Z1 followed by a single coat of Z2 (without wiping the Z1 coat off first) and do this once every 6 months, don't use Z6 or Z5, and are very happy with the results.

There are people who like to apply a coat of Z5 or Z2 every week and even more often: this is totally unnecessary but it is a choice each individual makes for themself. The shine seems to even get better with each additional coat.

It is not a difficult, complicated process as some people who have never used it would like you to believe.

The steps that are most complained about are the initial Dawn washing and claying but good prep work should be done with any product you choose. Another complaint resulting from applying a coat too thick is the length of time it takes to dry. Once you learn how to apply thin coats there is very little waiting time and the ZFX that will hopefully be released soon will change that situation anyway.
 
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RIC,

Isn't it amazing how people seem to know so much about Zaino when they haven't even tried it? :D
 
So, I figured maybe you guys can offer advice or something.

A co-worker of mine got into a little fender bender in her Acura.
After asking me about body shops, I gave her the reference to a place that is trustworthy and been around since the 70's here in Houston. They work on the high end exotics and do really nice work for a reasonable price. They pride themselves on excellent customer service and treat all customers without bias.

So she attempts to go to them this weekend and they were closed for the day. She has now decided to take her LEASED car that is wrecked to the dealership to have them fix it so they can't "screw her in the end" saying they didnt do the work.

I am at a complete loss.
Any insight you could give me would be helpful.
Or maybe I just need condolences.
Hate to be asked advice only to be rejected for the most assinine option.
Thoughts?
 
I learned the hard way that when you try to help someone, and do the right thing, it usually bites you in the but.

Don't worry about it though. All you can do is offer up the good advice. Weather she takes it or not is up to her.
 
Kinda like talking to my two teeage daughters. They ask my thoughts on things and totaly ignore my suggestion cuz they know better. But it always comes back to bite THEM in the butt... lol
 
She asked for a suggestion, I can think of no reason she should feel obligated to choose the option you offered. Perhaps someone else offered her the dealer option and she thought that one sounded better. Really no big deal, IMO.

And it is only your assumption that the dealership's body shop will do a "hack job". I know I had body work done by my dealershiip's preferred body shop (assume co-owned) over 10 years ago. And to this day I cannot distinguish where the repairs were made. I wouldn't hestiate to use them or recommend them. Of course I have another body shop that has done work on other vehicles for me and they have done very good work as well.
 
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