Master Detailer

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NTLGAUTODETAIL

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I was just wondering if anyone has heard the term Master Detailer? If so, I was wondering how one achieves this position and recognition. I have about 6-7 years of experience, own my own small Detailing business and am in line to take over the detail shop of my work (a ford store) Just wanted to know if anyone had any information about this term, and if it is made up or something that I can strive for. I'm in the Seattle/Tacoma area so if someone knows of the master detailer in this particular area.



Thanks

Eric

NTLG Auto Detailing
 
And, I don't think years experience would ever be considered a factor if there was, lots of guys have been swirling and hacking up paint for centuries, longevity means nothing.
 
VaSuperShine said:
And, I don't think years experience would ever be considered a factor if there was, lots of guys have been swirling and hacking up paint for centuries, longevity means nothing.
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Thats why i laugh when people say they have been detailing for XX years and know what they are doing.
 
Yea I suppose anyone can call themselves masters LOL. If there was a set standard out there like an apprenticeship or journeymans card then i suppose it's feasiable to get to the level of master. But there's no set organzation for detailers thus no set standards out there to follow by. Which is why i guess they get away with slapping a 16y/o with a rotary off a washline at your local clothwash and calling him a professional.
 
I have heard the term before.



I know of one who refers to himself as this on his website and I tend to have to agree with him. His clients range from Dallas Cowboys to Chip Fuse and I know his work is top notch.



However the people he hires to do his little jobs, basic wash, wax and interior are not top quality (from what I hear)



Anyways.
 
mas·ter /ˈmæstÉ™r, ˈmÉ‘stÉ™r/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mas-ter, mah-ster] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun

* an employer of workers or servants.

* a person eminently skilled in something, as an occupation, art, or science: the great masters of the Impressionist period.



(I left the meanings that were irrelevant off)



So, by definition you need to be skilled and employ or teach someone. Aren't we all Master Detailers in a way? :D



I would consider many in this forum Master Detailers.
 
No standardization or regulation, so anyone can call themselves a Master Detailer or a Detailer for that matter. A few Detail Programs that are deeply rooted & setup have programs that have levels of Apprentice & Master, ie. Attention To Details.
 
Maybe we should all form some sort of detailers union to set up such standards. And then everyone who comes into this feild will have to go through certian apptitude test to see where they fall.... Should only take about 10,000 votes LOL.
 
Jakerooni said:
Maybe we should all form some sort of detailers union to set up such standards. And then everyone who comes into this feild will have to go through certian apptitude test to see where they fall.... Should only take about 10,000 votes LOL.
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This has been tried a few times, I don't remember what you should search on if you want to see the discussion but I'm sure someone else will post or link to it.
 
Jakerooni said:
That was actually said as a complete joke.
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Well, some people have proposed it in all seriousness...I think most people felt it was a complete joke, hence the result of it not going anywhere. IIRC correctly, the argument was that mechanics, plumbers, electricians are certified/licensed, why shouldn't detailers be, etc. And the opposing argument was that your life doesn't depend on your car's shine (arguable for some Autopians, LOL, but not like your brakes, possibility of electrocution/fire, or your pipes leaking and ruining your house), people don't really care if they take their car to a "certified" detailer, etc.
 
There would have to be a huge process of commonality for it to even be feasiable. How do you even begin to certify someone in product use when there's 10,000 different products out there. The lot you just mentioned all have to follow code. I couldn't even imagine how to write up a code for a detailer. It's not impossible but highly improbable. And alot of the suppliers out there shelling there wares to the detailing public would probably go out of business do to their products not measuring up to code. it would cause alot more problems than it would solve. I agree that it would be nice to see some sort of standard, but that is one slippery slope to start down. I think it would snowball out of control before many people would even know it was there.
 
Certification is never going to happen.



Reputation is everything. For example, a local collision repair shop (chain of six) refers to me as "the best in the State on Black cars". Now, I don't know if that is true, but it nice to be thought of in that context!



Be nice to people. Do good work. Create a reputation of skill, quality and integrity.

The rest will follow.



Good luck!



Jim
 
And dont forget that what you can learn on autopia in 6 months may be more than many detailers learn in 10 years.



So many times I have talked to detailers that have been going at it for 15+ years that have been absolutely amazed at the stuff I tell them about and the products I use.



The first thing I try to do every time is get them to switch away from wheel acid and other harsh chemicals, and to start using clay on every car. Also a lot of these non-autopian detailers use loads of fillers without even knowing that they are.
 
Thanks for all the info guys. I'm new to the forum and I just had that question. I do find myself a above average detailer with a litte more experience needed in the swirl department, I know how to get them out when I do them, I just need more experience so that I dont get them in the first place..if that is at all possible. some people say you can get burnt out on detailing...I dont see it, I love doing it, I love the end result and hope to open a full shop someday. i'm only 24, so I have time I guess.



ERIC

NTLG Auto Detailing
 
NTLGAUTODETAIL said:
Thanks for all the info guys. I'm new to the forum and I just had that question. I do find myself a above average detailer with a litte more experience needed in the swirl department, I know how to get them out when I do them, I just need more experience so that I dont get them in the first place..if that is at all possible. some people say you can get burnt out on detailing...I dont see it, I love doing it, I love the end result and hope to open a full shop someday. i'm only 24, so I have time I guess.



ERIC

NTLG Auto Detailing
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This is what im kinda talkin about, own your own detailing company, 6-7 years experiance and you know very little about marring. No offense, you just have a long ways to go.
 
Jimmy Buffit said:
Certification is never going to happen.



Reputation is everything. For example, a local collision repair shop (chain of six) refers to me as "the best in the State on Black cars". Now, I don't know if that is true, but it nice to be thought of in that context!



Be nice to people. Do good work. Create a reputation of skill, quality and integrity.

The rest will follow.



Good luck!



Jim
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Jimmy,

you got an Angie's List Award. Now that's cool! :woohoo:



Congrats,

Derrick
 
Jimmy Buffit said:
Certification is never going to happen.



Reputation is everything. For example, a local collision repair shop (chain of six) refers to me as "the best in the State on Black cars". Now, I don't know if that is true, but it nice to be thought of in that context!



Be nice to people. Do good work. Create a reputation of skill, quality and integrity.

The rest will follow.



Good luck!



Jim
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Well said. You are exactly right.



....and always go the extra mile.:2thumbs:



Josh
 
Whose going to do the Certification? How much of Detailing is still disputed among Technicians & Chemical Suppliers? Factor in EPA Compliancy, Government Registration/Taxing... On and On.



Certification is never going to happen.



Be nice to people. Do good work. Create a reputation of skill, quality and integrity.
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Amen, though I would say it's going to take a LONG time for any Detailing Assocation to grow, (NAPDR).



And dont forget that what you can learn on autopia in 6 months may be more than many detailers learn in 10 years.
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Forums can only take you so far, do the right research and you'll find some amazing resources out there like Reputable Training, Networking Business, etc.
 
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