M205 Question

Mike,

Not sure how it will finish out (on account of a 4 inch pad) although I just recently got a 3.5" backing plate to go with my 4" pads and I really liked it (compared to my 2 1/4" bp). Much better overall feel.
I better get one ordered. I have 1/2 dozen 4" pads just collecting dust because the 2 1/4 BP doesn't handle well for me.

Wonder where I can order one...

Mike
 
I better get one ordered. I have 1/2 dozen 4" pads just collecting dust because the 2 1/4 BP doesn't handle well for me.

Wonder where I can order one...

Mike

I use the 3.5" backing plate with 4" pads all the time. Tight spots, headlight restoration, touch-ups. Very nice combo for the PC.:biggrin:

I keep the 3.5" on my PC and the 5" on my PC7424XP.:clap:
 
I went to Meguiar's Thursday Night Open Garage yesterday and a friend of mine brought his brand new 2010 Victory Red Camero. He is new to detailing and had no idea his car came with the free DISO.

Mike Stoops had him pull it into the garage so he could clean up a deep scratch and surrounding area near the drivers door handle. It looked like the dealer did a poor job of trying to polish the deeper scratch.

Mike then asked Bob (my friend) if he would like to learn to use the G110 to remove the swirls from his hood. So Using a G110, M205, and Megs 2.0 Black Finishing pad, and patients, that red hood came out gorgeous. It looked as though it already had an LSP applied to it prior to getting a coat of M26.

I use the same setup every 2 to 3 months on my black Camry with the same result. So I guess it is the timeliness of this thread and last night at TNOG that got me thinking of how well M205 finishes down for us with little experience. In a case like this would UF or PO85RD do much? Probably not. I've never used them so I can't say for sure.

I imagine some clears might not finish so nicely with M205.

Mike
 
I use the 3.5" backing plate with 4" pads all the time. Tight spots, headlight restoration, touch-ups. Very nice combo for the PC.:biggrin:

I keep the 3.5" on my PC and the 5" on my PC7424XP.:clap:
Bill

Don't you be trying to talk me into buying another PC. :scared: I already get "The Look" from my wife every time UPS drives buy. :StarWars:

I've got the 3.5" backing plate on my list. I'm waiting for another PAC sale with free shipping for my next order.

Mike
 
I already get "The Look" from my wife every time UPS drives buy.

UPS truck drives down the street.
Wife crosses her arms, sets her jaw, and starts tapping her toe.
Truck passes by without stopping.
She returns to her duties.
My heart rate returns to a normal rate.:)
 
UPS truck drives down the street.
Wife crosses her arms, sets her jaw, and starts tapping her toe.
Truck passes by without stopping.
She returns to her duties.
My heart rate returns to a normal rate.:)

I don't have to worry about getting "the look" only because right now I'm broke. I can't for this heat to let down a little.:toetap05: My energy bills are killing me right now. :banghead:
 
I can't for this heat to let down a little.:toetap05: My energy bills are killing me right now. :banghead:

We went to a car show tonight. We got there at 5pm and it was 102*! At 8pm it was still 97*.

There weren't many cars there. Normally 200, there were only about 50. It was nice to get back home in the A/C!:D
 
Just to throw everyone for a loop, M205 used with an Orange Lake Country Pad on a DA machine produces amazing results! It still cuts well enough to be able to be used as a follow up after using something even as aggressive as M105/PFW via rotary, yet finishes down extremely well.

If you dont believe me, here is my proof even on a black Porsche, which we all know has an incredibly soft clear. The combo used here was SIP/PFW via rotary followed my M205/Orange via DA.
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M205 will finish great but it needs to be worked in a different manner then traditional finishing polishes.

With M205 do not reduce pressure toward the end of your buffing cycle, instead maintain constant pressure and speed. Why?

It is the same reason that when you wet sand you want to keep constant pressure on the sanding block, to make sure that the abrasives are firmly and evenly 'engaged' on the paint to produce the most level cut possible. SMAT polishes work in a similar fashion.

On a recently 328 Ferrari that I worked on I was getting the faintest micro marring with M205 and a Lake Country Black Pad. I pulled the Ferrari into the sun to 'tune' my technique. I noticed to that the paint looked amazing as I was polishing it (under the polish film) but as soon as I lightened up the pressure I could see visible micro marring occur. However if I didn't lighten up the pressure no marring ever occurred.

These are unique polishes (M105/M205/M86) that do require us to adjust our technique to match their unique working proprieties.

In the past I have always been skeptical with having to change my style to fit the product, because I have gotten such great results from other products and processes: If it ain't broke, don't fix it....

BUT, M205 is worth learning, because I can do my final polish/jewel step in 1/4 the time (20-30 seconds), finish out to just as high of a gloss if I spent 2 minutes with a rotary, and 100% guaranteed that no holograms will ever show up...

Just my two cents, worth 1.3 cents with today's economy, but luckily worth three cents when inflation kicks in.
 
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