M105... cant get right. Video inside

DING DING DING!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER! Just tried white 7.5 inch (i think) mushroom shaped LC pad. I put 2 pea sized drops of 105 and 2 pea size drops of op... that did the trick! I think im going to take it back to 1 pea sized drop of OP though.



TOTO- Have you tried OP instead of 83? I dont have 83 but i kind of want to get some.
 
M105 can be very finicky... The larger pad should solve your problem, as with a smaller pad it can gum it up quickly.



I use it on a wool pad (mostly) and you have to work it quick. 1700-2000 rpm, quickly, then wipe off. Your time was good (8-10 seconds, tops) but with the small pad, it probably loaded the pad too much.
 
baseballlover1 said:
DING DING DING!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER! Just tried white 7.5 inch (i think) mushroom shaped LC pad. I put 2 pea sized drops of 105 and 2 pea size drops of op... that did the trick! I think im going to take it back to 1 pea sized drop of OP though.



TOTO- Have you tried OP instead of 83? I dont have 83 but i kind of want to get some.



GREAT! CONGRAT'S! Gives you a nice feeling when you get it right (kinda like golf he-he)



I had a sample of OP and liked it ok, but it's near enough to 83 IMO in this type work. And I have 2 gallons of 83...the BMW dealer has threatened me with bodily harm if I bring another product to the shop...



Have fun, enjoy your work, and post results.



Toto
 
Totoland Mach said:
GREAT! CONGRAT'S! Gives you a nice feeling when you get it right (kinda like golf he-he)



I had a sample of OP and liked it ok, but it's near enough to 83 IMO in this type work. And I have 2 gallons of 83...the BMW dealer has threatened me with bodily harm if I bring another product to the shop...



Have fun, enjoy your work, and post results.



Toto



You are very right. It does feel amazing when you get it right. And its funny you say golf. I was just invited to play like 3 minutes ago. Too bad im working on the x3 still... :(
 
Hmmm.. I'm hoping to use my M105 sample (thanks again, Greg :) ) on a car I have coming in this week, but now I'm wondering.. so much confliciting advice. The Megs video shows him working it for nine seconds, and I'm hearing alot of Autopians say that 10-15 seconds is about all you want to work it for. But now there are quite a few people saying to work it longer. Even as long as a minute! I can't remember the last time I worked a *compound* for a minute. Yeah, I always use wool pads which cuts the time down alot. Guess this is just gonna be a grab the bottle and start squeezing kinda thing.
 
One thing I noticed that no one else mentioned is it didn't look like you distributed the product over the surface evenly before you started correcting. Those diminishing abrasives need to be evenly covering the section first and then start your passes. Otherwise some portions are getting more cut than others. Spread it out, make about 2-3 times that passes you did and you should be good to go!
 
i've had problems with 105 drying up too fast and leaving an extremely hard to remove residue. what happens it i will spread the product and then make a single working pass and i can actually watch the m105 harden up in just a second or two. and jeeze, one that stuff is on there, its seemingly impossible to remove. this is with a yellow edge pad at about 1700 rpm. the stuff just flashes dry instantly. it makes me so mad because the gunk is so hard to remove.
 
If you are having trouble with #105 drying to quick, cut it 50/50 with Optimum Compound. I was able to work it on a black hood in the full sun today for a good 2 minutes or so at 1000 rpm with excellent results. Resizing pictures now...
 
Totoland Mach said:
Well, I'll chime in with my $0.000002 (after taxes). I use a rotary every day on BMW's for reconditioning, so here goes:



1. Pad size is way too small (except for headlight restoration). You are going to generate a lot of heat with that size and could burn the paint (this is from my own experience). Move to an 8" pad or the Meguiar's So1o 7" pads.

2. I work a small area (18" X 18" or so) slooooooowly, until the product disappears. And, never, ever, ever wipe compounded areas with a microfiber. That just induces more scratches. If you want to clean a compounded area, keep a bucket of ONR handy. There's enough lube in ONR to safely pick up the abrasive grit that's laying around.

3. If you are getting a caked on situation, you either have too much product on the pad or it's drying out too quickly. Try misting some plain water on the pad.



Finally, like Scott and others, I work the rotary between 1,000 rpm and 1,200 rpm.



Good luck



Toto
Good call, I did not think of that.
 
-Longhorn- said:
I plan on using this this weekend with a LC foamed purple wool pad is this a decent combo?



That's what I plan on doing as well so I have a good idea how much the LC purple will gunk up in comparison to the Edge wools. I am SO glad that I invested in the UPW to save myself plenty of time during my learning experience with M105.
 
-Longhorn- said:
No one else on the purple LC pad and 105?



Have you tried search? I found several threads on both the purple pad AND 105.



And many threads with Purple Wool LC in them.



Search is your friend.



Regards,

Deanski
 
-Longhorn- said:
No one else on the purple LC pad and 105?



I used it. It gives good results. I SWEAR to god i think humidity plays a HUGEEEE part in whether or not it works for you. After everything dried out i could work the 105 in for a bit longer and it cleared out. Before it didnt! before being when it was super humid.
 
baseballlover1 said:
I used it. It gives good results. I SWEAR to god i think humidity plays a HUGEEEE part in whether or not it works for you. After everything dried out i could work the 105 in for a bit longer and it cleared out. Before it didnt! before being when it was super humid.



I'm with you... humidity does play a very big part of it. Humidity here is usually single digit to low teens. Polishes dry very quickly here, and don't respond well to high RPM's. It also makes traditional car washes really hard; you just can't keep the car wet long enough to dry it without spots unless you use de-ionized water.



The only polishes that have a really good working time here are the entire Optimum line, PO106FF, and PO85RD.
 
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