m105 as a replacement for SIP?

Jean-Claude

Jean-Claude

Keeper of the beautiful
Would m105 make a good replacement for SIP? I just ran out of SIP. If I need to spend the $$$ on Menzerna I will, it's good stuff. But I keep hearing about how great m105 can be to use and it doesn't cost as much.



Thanks as always fellas.
 
M105 is a terrific product , but it has a learning curve. If you are willing to learn how to apply it you will not be dissapointed . Also remember that you are going from diminishing polish like Menzerma to M105 / M205 that are non diminishing . M105 will dry real quick compare to what you are use to . I prime the pad well as mention on the KB method and M105 will do wonders for you .



Cheers , Jean Paul
 
M105 over SIP? Not for me, SIP works very well for me and it is just seems to get the job done.



M105 is a very heavy compound and SIP is more of a medium compound.



Both have there places, however only SIP has a place in my arsenal!



M105 is to "moody" for me to use, I have never had to much trouble with SIP.
 
bwalker25 said:
M105 over SIP? Not for me, SIP works very well for me and it is just seems to get the job done.



M105 is a very heavy compound and SIP is more of a medium compound.



Both have there places, however only SIP has a place in my arsenal!



M105 is to "moody" for me to use, I have never had to much trouble with SIP.
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The exact opposite for me with my car (2000 White Mitsubishi Eclipse). When I use SIP on a day that is even slightly humid, I feel like I am wrestling with my rotary. However, M105 just acts as nice as can be. Interestingly thought, I few weeks ago I did a 2002 Black Honda Accord and SIP actually wasn't too bad. That was weird.



As far as M105 replacing SIP I could see where someone would take their normal cutting pad with SIP (Let's say Orange) and will use M105 but go down in pad strength. In this case use 105 with a white pad. Those on here who have tried that have said 105 on a polishing pad cuts just as much as SIP on a cutting pad, works faster and finishes just as nice. Now I have not tried this combo but those who have tried it and made such a comment are reputable detailers in my opinion. So again, to the original poster, if you substitute SIP with 105, don't for get to go one level down with your pad.
 
JC, I'm sure I have at least 1 quart of SIP that I would sell you at a good price. But I don't have any M105 for sale as its what I use.



EDIT: How about some FP2 and other menzerna polishes while we are at it. Send me a PM if interested.
 
I don't know if I would put M105 and SIP in the same category. M105 works mostly as a compound for most correction work.



Sip is a mid-level cut polish that can finish out quite nicely. I usually use SIP as my next step after M105.



I know there will be plenty that state they can finish with 105 or atleast come close by stepping down the aggresiveness of the pad. Even though 105 is probably the best product in my arsenal I couldn't due with out SIP. Even though it can be very difficult to use in humid conditions.
 
I have UC and SIP and reach for UC every time. IMO UC is easy to use(isn't grabby like SIP) and cuts as well and probably better.
 
I currently use Menzerna compound, SIP, IP, final polish(whatever it's called) and 3m FinessP.(again whatever the 3m finishing polish is)





From the sounds of it m105 would replace the Menzerna compound? Has anyone used both and which do you like better? The Menzerna compound works really good but I am willing to try something else when I run out.



Bryan, before I outright buy a new quart of SIP I will call you.
 
I've never really has any problems with #105 other than the dusting. Cuts fast and has a really good finish for what is nearly liquid sandpaper.
 
Also something to remember is that M105 is very pad dependent making it very versatile and it's a great one time hitter with the PC and orange pad combo whereas SIP is not, but if using a rotary I find M105 and SIP to have nearly the same cut if using a white pad, but SIP can be worked in like 10 times longer so it actually does the same amount of work more times so the results are much better. However you step up to a wool pad and nothing quite compares to M105 in cut and finishing down.



For me both are a must have and one could not replace the other.



M105 with wool, not white, on the rotary or orange on a PC or SIP with rotary.



Josh
 
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