looking for some suggestions on a hood problem

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imported_flatstick

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Hi, just wanted to start out by saying that this place really rocks.

Some of the information provided has helped us newbies out a great deal.Was wondering if anybody could give me some advice on a problem I am having on a 96 black Chevy blazer that I have . Have a pc and used Z7, Meg #80, AIO all with a white lake country polishing pad, then topped it with Z1and Z2.The finish looks awesome, except for the hood which shows lots of tiny scratches as well as some marks that look sap or something. One other problem is a large scratch on the rear wheel well that you can not feel.The truck was not clayed because the surface felt really smooth after the wash.does anybody have any ideas on what I can use that may help my black hood ? was thinking that I may need wash, clay, move up to a more aggresive product and maybe orange pad,then Meg #80, AIO, and Z1 and Z2.Many people seem to like either Meg #83 or 3M products on black but I have to admit that it seems the #83 can be tough to work with for a unskilled user and 3M has so many darn products that somebody like me who has never used them can easily get confused.Sorry about the long post and the lack of any pics, guess I can upload them later if that will help .thanks again for your time and happy detailing :D
 
flatstick- Welcome to Autopia!



I'm not sure about the "sap spots", if it were mine I'd first try claying them. If they're acid rain etching you might have to live with 'em.



The tiny scratches might come out with more tries using the #80. If you want to step up to something more aggressive you could try 3M PI-III RC (pn 05933). Then follow up with your #80. The 05933 isn't nearly as aggresssive as it might sound and it works fine by hand or PC. Yeah, I'd probably use the orange pad with the 05933 (until the scratches are pretty much gone), then a white pad with the 05933, then a white pad with the #80 until it's perfect.



Again, be prepared to go over the problem areas more than once, sometimes it takes a *lot* of work to get such things out (in part because the PC and the products under discussion are actually pretty mild).



Make sure you're using very soft materials such as quality MFs. You might be putting the scratches *in* while you're trying to get them *out*.
 
Accumulator, thanks fo the response I was kind of hoping you would reply. your posts that I have viewed seem to be guiding me in the proper direction. I have only been using MF to remove products or to buff out, have to admit the # 80 did a nice job after two pases. shall take your advice when the weather in Pa cooperates and clay,one question on the 3M 05933, when do you know the product has been worked enough, does it turn almost clear or do you work it till it is dry? So far the pics I have seen using the 3m on black look real sharp. have to agree that I may have to live with some of the defects, just want to lessen their appearance,.as most people on this board feel black looks sooooooo nice when it has been prepared properly. guess I shall listen to my brother and take my time he says I have "the patience of a rock " guess that is a good thing
 
Heh heh, yeah patience is a great asset when it comes to dealing with marring.



The 05933 doesn't turn clear or give you any other obvious clues as to when it's been broken down. It doesn't need to be worked until it's completely dry, though it will sometimes dry the rest of the way while I'm setting down the Cyclo and getting my MF towel to wipe it off. It doesn't seem to be a very picky product in this regard. Since it leaves a little micromarring anyhow, the whole "how long to work it" thing isn't that big a deal. Just work it "long enough" and you'll quickly get a feel for what that means.



Consider that I've been using it for a long time, with good reasults, and I *still* don't have a good answer as to how long to work it :o Heh heh, I guess that says good things about the product and maybe something else about me ;)
 
Well thanks for your input and your time, I shall have to jump in and get my feet wet with the 05933. just my type of product if it is not that picky, have a great day!
 
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