Looking for Iron remover recommendation

Lonnie said:
Meg`s D2002-RTU Iron Removing Spray Clay is what I bought because:
1) It was available over-the-counter (at O`reilly`s Auto Parts store)
2) It was cheap and I did not want to pay for a gallon
3) I know Meg`s products work
I used it on a White Chevy Traverse that was a wheelchair conversion vehicle. Just follow the directions, and yes, I did bleed here-and-there.
I ended up claying the whole vehicle anyway because of some HORRIBLE (AKA, a lot of!) black painted trim overspray from the conversion process.
JSFM35X, I would be interested in your thoughts and experience when you use this iron remover on a vehicle and how it compares to the other iron removers you may use.

I do have some safety concerns about using an iron remover:
1) Do you need to wear an N95 mask to avoid breathing in the mist?
2) Does it harm newer (AKA, not fully cured) concrete driveways outdoors or garage floor if indoors)?
3) I assume most of you do this outside, and NOT on a windy day (overspray threatening bushes or flower landscaping)
4) Can you use an iron remover as a "lite" acid wheel cleaner? (rim really, NOT the tire AND actually iron rotor dust, NOT brake dust)
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I have used Meguiar`s Ultimate Wheel Cleaner as an iron remover when I ran out of my iron remover but wanted to finish the rest of the car. Parts or the car turned red. It is a little thicker, but worked great. So I feel they are somewhat interchangable for iron and/or wheels.
And I have always used them outside, and even on windy days. I just made sure I always sprayed with the wind taking it away from me. I will admit I have never wore a mask... maybe not a good thing. I always make sure as I spray I am not breathing, and take my breaths away and between sprays. I would think a mask would be good ppe to have though.
 
I`ve used Gyeon and Gtechnic. Both were good. Laboscosmetica`s Sidero is by far the best though. Diluited 1:4 I get four times the amount of product for the what the other brands cost. It`s also a thick gel-like solution that clings to the paint better and stays wet for much longer.
 
Do a test with the iron remover of your choice. Is it truly removing the materials or is it just identifying the areas where the material is? Curious about the findings.
 
Anthony Orosco said:
Is it truly removing the materials or is it just identifying the areas where the material is? Curious about the findings.
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Interesting you should bring that up, maybe you have missed this, but Stoner Car Care intro`d an Odorless Iron Remover at SEMA. When it finally came out, it got panned as being ineffective, with YouTubers doing side-by-side comparisons with the traditional stuff, and then spraying the Stoner side with the traditional to show that Stoner didn`t remove it all. Also there were complaints about the Stoner product staining concrete.

To their credit, Stoner has now released a version without the indicator so it`s non-staining, but they addressed the effectiveness by doing an under-microscope test and claiming that none of the products actually completely dissolve the embedded iron particles, they just dissolve enough to allow them to be dislodged by agitation. I think that will have to be confirmed by independent testing, but perhaps this is another detailing misconception, like the Dawn "stripping".

It seems to me there was always talk about claying not removing all of the iron particles, that in some cases it would pull them out, but in others it would shear them off, leaving "below surface" contamination, which is why some companies promoted using acid to dissolve it, or then later the color-change compounds.
 
Over a decade ago, the company examined costs of sales. Once they saw the results, moved their efforts to the large volume users and OEM`s. Big-huge increase in volume and profits, less spent to sell a quart, etc. While they do continue to sell to small volume users, most items are full cases only.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Ah jeeze, I open this thread to see what Jngrbrdman has to say, and instead see he`s been hacked.
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Don`t worry, I`m on it! Thanks to PoisonTheWell for disliking it so that it sent me a notification. I`ve changed the password now and we should be good.

On the other hand, that is a great endorsement to the influence of Autopia if someone is going to take the time to hack an account and post. Great job, guys! :)
 
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