Looking for a PURE Polish . . .

Tort- Yeah, the #5 a wipe/haze/remove product like the #3. It'll dust even more than the #3 though. Unless you're working on old-school ss (where you really do "feed the paint") there's no real point in working these products very much IMO. They don't really penetrate, they just fill in the microscopic pits/valleys/etc. in the paint so as long as you force the product into the pores of the paint you've done all you can do. Working it longer just makes for more headaches and using too much does the same.
 
Accumulator,



Thanks, that makes sense. When warmer weather arrives, I'll try applying a thin layer of #3 and letting it haze. When I used it before, I was using the same technique I'd use for polishes: apply a bead around the perimeter of the pad, work until almost gone, and buff immediately. Looks like I managed to do three things wrong at the same time :D



Waiting for spring,

Tort
 
Accumulator said:
Yeah, what Meg's calls a "pure polish" most of us would call a glaze. I must be the only person on here who uses #5, but it's my favorite product of this type. Has been since the mid-1970s. Makes a little dust (not too much), but that's because it really *dries*, as opposed to "skinning" like the #7. Very, very easy to use.
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You're not alone! ;) I have used #5 for years. In Memphis, in the dead heat of summer it is about the only meguiars pure "polish" that can be used.
 
endus said:
[I personally think this all detracts greatly from the credibility of most product manufacturers in the detailing industry, promising that their products will do more than they actually will. [/B]
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You have a point, but I don't think that Zaino makes a lot of over-rated, fantastic claims concerning their products. Everything I have tried works as advertised but I admit I don't know how long the Z2 finish will last yet. Maybe someone here has used it awhile and would know.:nixweiss
 
I've spoken to Sal about the terminology and what he said makes sense to me.



He cannot call Z2, 3, and 5 a "wax" because there is no wax in those products.



He cannot call the product what it really is, a non-abrasive, non-oily, very low solvent polymer paint sealant because that phrase won't fit on a label. Even calling it a 'sealant' is confusing; how many people do you know away from Autopia even understand what a sealant is? Heck, there are people here that don't really understand it.



So he calls it a polish. Lots of products are called polishes. Not all have paint cleaning ability. Its just a descriptive term.



While I agree the industry as a whole has bastardized the word "polish", I can't see a solution to the problem. Maybe someone could invent a new word that laymen and enthusiasts both would instantly understand.
 
And so he calls it a "polish". Makes sense, when people see a really shiney car or whatever they think, " man, somebody really polished that thing". I don't think he is trying to fool or mislead anybody. If so he would not make it clear what his stuff really is on his website. I'm not the type to spend the time and energy using a buffer ect, so Zainos stuff is perfect for me.
 
rjstaaf said:
That is all well and good but, in the car care industry they do not go by the dictionary definition. Otherwise Zaino, EX-P to name a couple would have cleaning agents or abrasive particles which they clearly do not.
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As a suggestion perhaps we (Autopia contributors) should define polish, wax, sealant, and etc and put it in the 'secret decoder ring' section?



JonM
 
I'm definitely not defending Meguiars at all...they are almost as bad. What irritates me about the Zaino thing is that polish is something that REMOVES protection. I mean, to anyone who knows a very little about detailing, the product pretty much does the exact opposite of what it claims to do. "Polymer Sealant" or "Paint Shine and Protect" or pretty much anything along those lines would make more sense to me even if they aren't 100% accurate. The thing is, on other boards, the terminology DOES confuse people...it even confused me for a long time (though I wasn't looking into Zaino for my car...I realize the website does clarify).



Anyways, not to harp on that, but some standardization of terinology would be a really good idea.
 
ebpcivicsi said:
I have used #5 for years. In Memphis, in the dead heat of summer it is about the only meguiars pure "polish" that can be used.
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Heh heh, I sent my last bottle of #5 down to Memphis- my niece-in-law got it along with our Volvo, which had fresh paintwork. I figured it would work out well in the heat and humidity.



Nice to hear that *somebody* else uses the stuff :D
 
Jiffyjam said:
... I would like to put my name in nomination

for the position on Vice Evil overlord so I can likewise impose my will on these waxers, and form a secret group to carry out the "reprisals". ( or maybe I'll just quietly polish, or seal, my F-150 ):bow
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I will gladly consider you application for the position of Vice Evil Overlord Jiffyjam. (As an Autopian you are in a good position. Most of the other candidates I'm considering are supermodels and I'm pretty sure Mrs. Evil Overlord will nix that idea.)





very evily,



PC.
 
rjstaaf said:
Glazes aren't really meant to be your last step. Generally you will want to apply a wax or sealant over a glaze. My favorite combo has always been Meguiars #7 show car glaze topped with Meguiars #26 high tech yellow wax but, you could just as easily substitute #16 professional paste wax for #26.



You could apply a layer of #7 over the #16 you already have on the paint and then put on another layer of #16.



If you follow Mike Phillips application and removal tips for #7 you shouldn't have any problems with it.



http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23740
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Thread necromancy! This link is dead, and its linked to in a bunch of threads. I would like to know if anyone has these tips or if there is an alternate link? thanks
 
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